Semi finals

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Sports Bet
wrote on 19-Aug-22 13:52

Reserve grade

West Penno $1.15

West Ryde $4.60

 

Epping Eastwood $2.50

Mac Dragons $1.50

 

First grade

West Penno $1.30

Normo $3.50

 

West Ryde $1.80

St Andrews $2.00

watts
wrote on 19-Aug-22 14:20

First grade

revised odd$

West Penno $1.20

Normo $3.80

 

WRR   $1.70

St Andrews $2.30

2nd prize
wrote on 19-Aug-22 14:23

watts wrote:
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>First grade

>revised odd$

>West Penno $1.20

>Normo $3.80

>WRR   $1.70

>St Andrews $2.30


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Gee you've really gone out on a limb there

Bash
wrote on 20-Aug-22 21:15

who won?

The bookies
wrote on 20-Aug-22 21:26

Bookies won

Subs
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:15

My club didn't make the ressies semi finals but I was there and was interested by what I saw. I hope the EEW Ressies keeper is doing okay. Gotta feel pretty hard done by to play all season and then have his spot taken by the first grade keeper for the semi final. I know it's legal, but not really in the spirit of the game and he's earned the right to play having played all season. Shame. If I was Buttrey I would have said thanks but our other bloke deserves to play.

Anyway I'm sure everyone has an option on it but I'm glad I’ve seen other clubs give their players the right to play when they've done the hard work in that grade.

Good luck to the finalists in both grades. Keen to see what happens next week

Horse
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:29

Ressies 

WPH 2-1

EEW 3-2

 

1sts 

WPH 3-1

STA 4-1

Zip zip
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:33

Sooooo rovers? Lol zip

Y Man
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:36

i thought rovers shoooo in

Neutral
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:43

Horse wrote:
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>Ressies 

>WPH 2-1

>EEW 3-2

>1sts 

>WPH 3-1

>STA 4-1


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Cost your team the shutout

Jon snow
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:46

Subs wrote:
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My club didn't make the ressies semi finals but I was there and was interested by what I saw. I hope the EEW Ressies keeper is doing okay. Gotta feel pretty hard done by to play all season and then have his spot taken by the first grade keeper for the semi final. I know it's legal, but not really in the spirit of the game and he's earned the right to play having played all season. Shame. If I was Buttrey I would have said thanks but our other bloke deserves to play.

Anyway I'm sure everyone has an option on it but I'm glad I’ve seen other clubs give their players the right to play when they've done the hard work in that grade.

Good luck to the finalists in both grades. Keen to see what happens next week


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that's a lot of shade to throw around without knowing circumstances or situation, but gues that's why your watching not playing.

Throwing shade
wrote on 20-Aug-22 22:58

Jon snow wrote:
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>Subs wrote:
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My club didn't make the ressies semi finals but I was there and was interested by what I saw. I hope the EEW Ressies keeper is doing okay. Gotta feel pretty hard done by to play all season and then have his spot taken by the first grade keeper for the semi final. I know it's legal, but not really in the spirit of the game and he's earned the right to play having played all season. Shame. If I was Buttrey I would have said thanks but our other bloke deserves to play.

Anyway I'm sure everyone has an option on it but I'm glad I’ve seen other clubs give their players the right to play when they've done the hard work in that grade.

Good luck to the finalists in both grades. Keen to see what happens next week

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>that's a lot of shade to throw around without knowing circumstances or situation, but gues that's why your watching not playing.


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Genuinely didnt meant to offend you and not meaning to 'throw shade'. I just think it's a shame that a player who has played all season and therefore earn this spot wasn't able to take the field. Do you know about the circumstances or situation? Nothing to do with me watching not playing hahaha

Game changing Decision
wrote on 20-Aug-22 23:03

The ref made a huge decision to stop Normo going up 2-1 in the second half for a non existent handball that was right in front of his eyes. 

To go over to the junior linesman who was 30 yards away is crazy. That changed the whole momuteum of the game...

 

Disappointing to say the least 

Neutral
wrote on 20-Aug-22 23:20

Game changing Decision wrote:
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>The ref made a huge decision to stop Normo going up 2-1 in the second half for a non existent handball that was right in front of his eyes. 

>To go over to the junior linesman who was 30 yards away is crazy. That changed the whole momuteum of the game...

>Disappointing to say the least 


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need the video replay on that call. No reaction from wph players to the 'handball'

normo struggled to get out of their half for most of the game. They won a contentious penalty to go 1-0 up. A second goal to take the lead again would have been well against the run of play. West Penno better on the day

Clear handball
wrote on 20-Aug-22 23:22

There is no question the ball went in off the Normo player's arm. The delay in celebrating and the fact there was no real argument tells it's own story. Could see it straight away from around the halfway line.

 

Do agree it was strange that the ref didn't make the decision himself but to be honest don't think he had a very good game, pretty inconsistent decisions both ways.

 

No question that the comfortably better side won

Learn
wrote on 20-Aug-22 23:29

Subs wrote:
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My club didn't make the ressies semi finals but I was there and was interested by what I saw. I hope the EEW Ressies keeper is doing okay. Gotta feel pretty hard done by to play all season and then have his spot taken by the first grade keeper for the semi final. I know it's legal, but not really in the spirit of the game and he's earned the right to play having played all season. Shame. If I was Buttrey I would have said thanks but our other bloke deserves to play.

Anyway I'm sure everyone has an option on it but I'm glad I’ve seen other clubs give their players the right to play when they've done the hard work in that grade.

Good luck to the finalists in both grades. Keen to see what happens next week


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mate if you've been around PL long enough you'll know that's what tigers do and what they've always done. Whatever it takes to win regardless of any collateral damage or actions that are against the spirit of the game. You must be new to the league. You'll learn...

You weren't watching
wrote on 20-Aug-22 23:41

Clear handball wrote:
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>There is no question the ball went in off the Normo player's arm. The delay in celebrating and the fact there was no real argument tells it's own story. Could see it straight away from around the halfway line.

>Do agree it was strange that the ref didn't make the decision himself but to be honest don't think he had a very good game, pretty inconsistent decisions both ways.

>No question that the comfortably better side won


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Don't think you were watching the game. All the players were at half way line for the kick off and then Normo surrounded the referee for 2 mins arguing with him.

 

Surprised the captain didn't get sent to the bin for it.

Average for a semi
wrote on 21-Aug-22 04:13

Refs was average I thought. Terribly inconsistent, hope he doesn't have the final next week. 

New refs
wrote on 21-Aug-22 06:36

Average for a semi wrote:
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>Refs was average I thought. Terribly inconsistent, hope he doesn't have the final next week. 


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Refs were the worst they've been all season

Where was juice? 

He's 100 times better than any of the flogs running around yesterday

 

I havnt even seen any of the refs that were reffing yesterday. Where did they pull these guys from?

Best mates
wrote on 21-Aug-22 06:53

Game changing Decision wrote:
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>The ref made a huge decision to stop Normo going up 2-1 in the second half for a non existent handball that was right in front of his eyes. 

>To go over to the junior linesman who was 30 yards away is crazy. That changed the whole momuteum of the game...

>Disappointing to say the least 


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West penno had the refs in their pocket both games

Just like they have had all season

Nothing new going on here

Watch them get a penalty in both grades next week 

wake up
wrote on 21-Aug-22 08:00

Learn wrote:
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>mate if you've been around PL long enough you'll know that's what tigers do and what they've always done. Whatever it takes to win regardless of any collateral damage or actions that are against the spirit of the game. You must be new to the league. You'll learn...

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And whats wrong with that?

 

This isn't hey lets play the team who might win. it's lets play the best team we are legally allowed to field.

 

This would have been planned for the  past 5 weeks trying to get first graders qualified for ressies. Every team does it, Every team is allowed to do it.

 

If you don't appreciate that the best team plays, go to AA bud.

Average at best
wrote on 21-Aug-22 08:46

New refs wrote:
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>Average for a semi wrote:
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>>Refs was average I thought. Terribly inconsistent, hope he doesn't have the final next week. 

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>Refs were the worst they've been all season

>Where was juice? 

>He's 100 times better than any of the flogs running around yesterday

>I havnt even seen any of the refs that were reffing yesterday. Where did they pull these guys from?


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Couldnt agree more. Really average. Pick your best refs for your best games. Not sure whether the ref association even knows who their best refs are.

 

I don't think Juice will be reffing either PL games cause he use to play for WPH. Get ready for some more average reffing next week then...

lol
wrote on 21-Aug-22 08:57

NWSF gave juice the womens PL today because apparently they are the only thing that matters in the league now.

 

 

Refs
wrote on 21-Aug-22 09:21

Refs were average yesterday, but don't understand the constant pumping up of Juice's refereeing. He ain't that god's gift to refereeing and isn't the best ref in the comp. 

Truth be told
wrote on 21-Aug-22 09:41

Truth be told, Grant Reid is prolly the best, Juice is up there but not top 4 IMO.

 

 

Yawn
wrote on 21-Aug-22 10:37

wake up wrote:
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>Learn wrote:
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>>mate if you've been around PL long enough you'll know that's what tigers do and what they've always done. Whatever it takes to win regardless of any collateral damage or actions that are against the spirit of the game. You must be new to the league. You'll learn...

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>And whats wrong with that?

>This isn't hey lets play the team who might win. it's lets play the best team we are legally allowed to field.

>This would have been planned for the  past 5 weeks trying to get first graders qualified for ressies. Every team does it, Every team is allowed to do it.

>If you don't appreciate that the best team plays, go to AA bud.

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Sure, but how would you feel if you were the bloke who missed out? Surely if your team finishes in the top 4 and you've played the season you've done a good enough job to warrant your spot in the team? And if your team is good enough, you'll win the match anyway. I get you want to play the best team, of course you want to win, but I wouldn't feel right about taking a teammate's spot or making the call to tell the regular keeper he's not playing. As Learn says, some people don't care...

 

TigerTown
wrote on 21-Aug-22 11:25

If you have a problem with it, take it up with your coach mate.

 

Most managers would play what they need to, to get into the finalse.

 

Sounds like you are a disgruntled Dragons player or coach after being pumped by the mighty tigers yesterday.

Hahaha
wrote on 21-Aug-22 11:33

TigerTown wrote:
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>If you have a problem with it, take it up with your coach mate.

>Most managers would play what they need to, to get into the finalse.

>Sounds like you are a disgruntled Dragons player or coach after being pumped by the mighty tigers yesterday.


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Don't know what you're all complaining about. West Penno don't have to swap players between teams to win and they'll take out both grades next week

Players pick
wrote on 21-Aug-22 11:35

Truth be told wrote:
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>Truth be told, Grant Reid is prolly the best, Juice is up there but not top 4 IMO.


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Who's ever happy with refs? Someone always doesn't like their decision. Reidy and juice are probably the most respected because they mange the players the best. There's some total dicks in this comp who it doesn't matter who refs them they're clowns. Had both reidy and juice this year and both games you wouldn't know  they were there. Let games flow will have a laugh actual acknowledge if they got something wrong or see how you saw it understand the difference between player frustration and disrespect. Sounds like sour grapes from some on the wrong end of scoreboards but hope both get one of the gfs. 

Hahaha
wrote on 21-Aug-22 11:40

TigerTown wrote:
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>If you have a problem with it, take it up with your coach mate.

>Most managers would play what they need to, to get into the finalse.

>Sounds like you are a disgruntled Dragons player or coach after being pumped by the mighty tigers yesterday.


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Don't know what you're all complaining about. If Epping Eastwood have swapped players good luck to them. West Penno don't have to swap players between teams to win and they'll take out both grades next week

Lol
wrote on 22-Aug-22 18:33

Old mate was in Brisbane, can't stand between the sticks when he's away

Wow
wrote on 22-Aug-22 19:28

Wow did it take tigers 2 days to work out he was away? The poor bloke. Not sure what's worse, having your spot taken or being forgotten by your team mates lol

Saturday
wrote on 22-Aug-22 20:44

So the EEW Ressies goalie will be playing Saturday then and not Buttrey

 

As well as the other couple of first graders they got qualified for the finals list be taking Ressies players spots. 

The Referee (Retired)
wrote on 23-Aug-22 08:31

With the season drawing to a close my entertainment with watching and readings the comments made on this forum will obvioulsy draw to close until 2023 kicks off again and then all the chest beating will commence again and sheep stations will be on the line.

Much of the commentary is good banter and some very outside the square thinking and many years ago we called for a Premier League forum to throw many of the thoughts and ideas you guys are raising on the forum here, but alas when the season draws to a close the zeal drops away for a chat and discussion about the next coming season and the same issues crop up next season 

I wish all those players, teams and clubs who have made their way to GF's enjoy the day and the comraderie of their mates and there always has to be a winner and a loser, that is what competition is all about, so be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.

Making up numbers
wrote on 23-Aug-22 18:55

EEW to lose by 5. 

Tell him he's dreaming
wrote on 23-Aug-22 22:04

Making up numbers wrote:
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>EEW to lose by 5. 


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You'd be crazy to think this.

 

Both games this season have been 1-1.

 

The second game at Campbell, Tigers were the better team overall but were let down by Buttrey in conceding a goal at his near post. 

This game will be determined by the referee. Both ressies games were refereed by two of the best ressies refs in the comp. 

If the game plays itself out and the ref allows some physical play, it should be a speccie for what you'd want from a Reserves game. 

 

Sadly, based on last week's games, the ref could ruin the occasion.

The Referee (Retired)
wrote on 24-Aug-22 08:42

Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !

Card happy
wrote on 24-Aug-22 09:35

The Referee (Retired) wrote:
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>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !


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Use your cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later manage... so you card early instead of managing firstly? So you potential addd to a player's accumulative cards in the season leading to suspension, when instead you could try managing firstly. You sound like one of the many "older" card happy refs. Thank you for your service and your retirement. 

You are salty
wrote on 24-Aug-22 12:04

Saturday wrote:
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>So the EEW Ressies goalie will be playing Saturday then and not Buttrey

>As well as the other couple of first graders they got qualified for the finals list be taking Ressies players spots. 


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Every first grade player in that team qualifed because they were injured or ill and missed several games this season and were dropped down to gain fitness.

 

No ressie players are unfairly missing the final. Not sure why you're so concerned if you're not playing in the final. You might find happiness in finding a hobby? Could take the edge off a little  

 

 

nonsense
wrote on 24-Aug-22 12:59

The Referee (Retired) wrote:
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>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !


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if so much thought goes into who refs the finals

where did the refs come from for this finals series and why was there an inexperienced shy teenager on one of the sidelines

Bennett
wrote on 24-Aug-22 15:03

nonsense wrote:
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>>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !

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>if so much thought goes into who refs the finals

>where did the refs come from for this finals series and why was there an inexperienced shy teenager on one of the sidelines


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Think he's talking about the GF not the semis. I'm sure they'll put some decent ones on the GF. Question is who are the deceent ones haha

The Referee (Retired)
wrote on 25-Aug-22 11:19

Bennett wrote:
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>>The Referee (Retired) wrote:
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>>>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>>>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>>>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>>>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !

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>>if so much thought goes into who refs the finals

>>where did the refs come from for this finals series and why was there an inexperienced shy teenager on one of the sidelines

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>Think he's talking about the GF not the semis. I'm sure they'll put some decent ones on the GF. Question is who are the deceent ones haha


Could have been out of district referees under inspection for testing for the Levels they are achieving for, this happens regularly when all of a sudden you see faces you have never seen before, they could be from other referee districts, for my Class 1 Practical I was sent Blacktown on the 1st inspection and then St George on the 2nd and their players in their respective P/L comps whinged about having out of district referees coming in and beng all official and ensuring all aspects of the laws are adhered to, but that is what the referee is being inspected for, to ensure knowledge and application of the laws of the game, not what the players wanted ?

The funny thing about NWSFA formerly GHFA was that we have had referees who have refereed at FIFA International level come back and referee in the Association and players still whinged about them, so the conclusion out of 22 players on a park you are never going to make everyone happy, so you just try and be consistent, either consistently good or consistently bad !

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Ego
wrote on 25-Aug-22 12:16

Inconsistency aside i think a lot of the referees in this association have problems with their ego's. 

They engage too much with the players in a feeble attempt to overtly assert their authority which is never received well and just attracts critisism. Surely referees expect some comments after a 50/50 call (back chat NOT abuse, which is not ok) but so many times you see the ref get their panties in a bunch when players simply whinge, become exasperated or call out " no way" or something along those lines.

The absolute best referees in this association are the ones you barely realise are on the field, they let play flow, call fouls consistently (doesn't matter if they're soft or let things slide if they're consistent both ways) and most importantly they stfu, don't aggresively engage the players and just let them have a whinge for 5 seconds and get on with the game.

All too many times I've seen ref's sprint 20m, get right up in players' faces and puff their little chest out and make a mountain out of a molehill

wrong choice
wrote on 25-Aug-22 13:30

The Referee (Retired) wrote:
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>>>The Referee (Retired) wrote:
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>>>>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>>>>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>>>>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>>>>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !

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>>>if so much thought goes into who refs the finals

>>>where did the refs come from for this finals series and why was there an inexperienced shy teenager on one of the sidelines

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>>Think he's talking about the GF not the semis. I'm sure they'll put some decent ones on the GF. Question is who are the deceent ones haha

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Could have been out of district referees under inspection for testing for the Levels they are achieving for, this happens regularly when all of a sudden you see faces you have never seen before, they could be from other referee districts, for my Class 1 Practical I was sent Blacktown on the 1st inspection and then St George on the 2nd and their players in their respective P/L comps whinged about having out of district referees coming in and beng all official and ensuring all aspects of the laws are adhered to, but that is what the referee is being inspected for, to ensure knowledge and application of the laws of the game, not what the players wanted ?

>The funny thing about NWSFA formerly GHFA was that we have had referees who have refereed at FIFA International level come back and referee in the Association and players still whinged about them, so the conclusion out of 22 players on a park you are never going to make everyone happy, so you just try and be consistent, either consistently good or consistently bad !

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i dont see why they would do that for a semi final

shouldnt the finals for the players also be the finals for the refs

youd think the better refs from the season get picked to officiate the semi

 

that definitely wasnt the case on saturday

Top Gum
wrote on 25-Aug-22 15:41

wrong choice wrote:
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>>>>>Was always told you referee the GF like you would any other game, but good man mangement lets you referee the game in line with the spirit of the players and the physicality of the game, the only problem is once you let one bad tackle go, the game can be lost as far as control, without bringing the cards into play, but on the same hand you don't want to strangle the game with rullings and small fouls where advantage can be played.

>>>>>My style early in Premier League first grade was to use my cards for things that could have been a discussion/warning, then later on I would man manage a game by talking and laughing with the players (by laughing, I mean when something funny happened in the game ) with the players and the tone of my whistle would give the players the heads up something was not acceptable and I  would move in quick to ensure players knew I was dealing with the issue and this normally prevented it escalating into much worse situations.  A double tap on the whistle long and hard meant usually it was card time.

>>>>>Grand Final referees are normally selected from the best performing referees who have been running around Premier League during the season and he selection panel for GF referees think long and hard about the right referee, so I don't think there will be an issue.

>>>>>The referee should really not be seen or heard of, as the game is not about the referee, but about good play and sportsmanship and hopefully that is how it goes !

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>>>>if so much thought goes into who refs the finals

>>>>where did the refs come from for this finals series and why was there an inexperienced shy teenager on one of the sidelines

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>>>Think he's talking about the GF not the semis. I'm sure they'll put some decent ones on the GF. Question is who are the deceent ones haha

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Could have been out of district referees under inspection for testing for the Levels they are achieving for, this happens regularly when all of a sudden you see faces you have never seen before, they could be from other referee districts, for my Class 1 Practical I was sent Blacktown on the 1st inspection and then St George on the 2nd and their players in their respective P/L comps whinged about having out of district referees coming in and beng all official and ensuring all aspects of the laws are adhered to, but that is what the referee is being inspected for, to ensure knowledge and application of the laws of the game, not what the players wanted ?

>>The funny thing about NWSFA formerly GHFA was that we have had referees who have refereed at FIFA International level come back and referee in the Association and players still whinged about them, so the conclusion out of 22 players on a park you are never going to make everyone happy, so you just try and be consistent, either consistently good or consistently bad !

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>i dont see why they would do that for a semi final

>shouldnt the finals for the players also be the finals for the refs

>youd think the better refs from the season get picked to officiate the semi

>that definitely wasnt the case on saturday


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Wait until this Saturday night then if that was some of the bast last weekend haha. God help us

Godfrey
wrote on 25-Aug-22 16:04

Little bloke with brown hair who did tigers vs mac ressies is absolutely beyond useless. Didn't effect the outcome of the game tho

the good the bad and the ugly
wrote on 26-Aug-22 07:50

the guy that did the west penno rovers game wasnt bad but he was far from one of the better refs weve had this season.

to be fair though he was also a lot better than some of the refs weve had this year

 

Nerds 4 SL
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>>If you have a problem with it, take it up with your coach mate.

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>>Most managers would play what they need to, to get into the finalse.

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>>Sounds like you are a disgruntled Dragons player or coach after being pumped by the mighty tigers yesterday.

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This aged well... Well done pup. Up the tigers (with their ressies keeper)

5-0
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best of the worst
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you won ressies

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you won ressies

Not sure
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did they get it right for the final? Hadn't seen the ressies ref before 

Ressie ref
wrote on 30-Aug-22 20:13

Personally I thought he was very poor. Whistle happy, didn't allow anything physical, ruined the flow at times. Got a lot wrong both ways. I can say as a WPH fan it didn't cost us the game at all, and he gave stuff our way that was wrong, so definitely not sour grapes I just thought he was poor.

 

Have to say I thought all 3 officials in first grade were excellent. 

Ressie ref
wrote on 30-Aug-22 20:17

Personally I thought he was very poor. Whistle happy, didn't allow anything physical, ruined the flow at times. Got a lot wrong both ways. I can say as a WPH fan it didn't cost us the game at all, and he gave stuff our way that was wrong, so definitely not sour grapes I just thought he was poor.

 

Have to say I thought all 3 officials in first grade were excellent. 

Agree
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Yep, tend to think the two ressies refs that we've had in the previous two fixtures were much better. Could have been Grand Final nerves but I was hoping for a bit more physicality, free flowing football with a touch of niggle that could be controlled by the referee, like what happened at Campbell particularly.

I guess there are some refs who just know the balance of reffing a good game and others who don't. You just have to deal with what you get on the day...

 

Have to say that I thought the First Grade ref was also pretty average as well. Similar to the ressies ref. Pulled up way too many fouls (some non existent ones for both teams). 
Look to be 100 assessors at the ground which doesn't help either.

Ref
wrote on 31-Aug-22 09:08

The first grade ref was pretty woeful. Wouldn't have made a difference to the result, but he was pretty inconsistent with various calls/non calls. 

watts
wrote on 06-Sep-22 08:43

Referee-ing /VAR standards are so low in the EPL..that some of the local ref should be able to get a gig in UK

 

and Gillet is one of the worst for the past 2 seasons

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182587/Premier-League-clubs-planning-follow-Newcastle-making-official-complaints-VAR-decisions.html

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