>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
>
>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
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>Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
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I was 100% onboard with believing this up to the point you said he played for Normo then I realised it was a joke
the Joker wrote: ------------------------------------------ >
>Left back wonderkid wrote: ------------------------------------------ >
>>Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
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>I was 100% onboard with believing this up to the point you said he played for Normo then I realised it was a joke
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You won't be laughing when he whips in a deadly cross that accidentally goes into the goal
>>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
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>>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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> ------------------------------------------
>
>Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
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So you are ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
who cares about hills football? They have only been around 5 minutes and have like 3 staff.
Nwsf have triple the amount of paid staff, yet can't organise a full season / full finals series.
And what is your reasoning for argument? Is there a valid reason?
compare yourself to eastern suburbs PL, play a full season PLUS a full finals series...
>>>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
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>>>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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>>Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
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>So you are ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
>who cares about hills football? They have only been around 5 minutes and have like 3 staff.
>
>Nwsf have triple the amount of paid staff, yet can't organise a full season / full finals series.
>And what is your reasoning for argument? Is there a valid reason?
>
>compare yourself to eastern suburbs PL, play a full season PLUS a full finals series...
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sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
>sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
You definately have a "love it or leave" aussie flag tattoo on your chest.
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>Move on wrote:
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>>sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
>
>So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
>
>You definately have a "love it or leave" aussie flag tattoo on your chest.
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No I think you missed the only non sarcastic portion of the sentence, genius. Take it up with your club and stop whining about it here. This is an uninfluential forum with zero input really. #takeitupwithyourclub #moveon
> So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association? > > ... Do a proper job you muppets > ... There is no reason why they shorten the season. > ... No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered". > ... but now it's simply laziness. > ... association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it. > ... ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
Yep, yep, yep... sure sounds constructive to me.
So, let's hear this constructive advice that you have... and I don't mean "just let premier league play".
SPECIFICALLY, how would you have done things differently that would have meant that everyone gets what they want (incl. kids, women, all-age, PL, SL, O35, O45, referees, councils, et al)? No arm-wavy statements please... I'm keen to hear the EXACT changes you'd advocate for.
PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
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>PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
>First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
>If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
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> > So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association? > > ... Do a proper job you muppets > ... There is no reason why they shorten the season. > ... No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered". > ... but now it's simply laziness. > ... association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it. > ... ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
>Yep, yep, yep... sure sounds constructive to me.
>So, let's hear this constructive advice that you have... and I don't mean "just let premier league play".
>SPECIFICALLY, how would you have done things differently that would have meant that everyone gets what they want (incl. kids, women, all-age, PL, SL, O35, O45, referees, councils, et al)? No arm-wavy statements please... I'm keen to hear the EXACT changes you'd advocate for.
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Theres a lot more constructive feedback on this forum than the cherry-picked whinging you've selected.
You want EXACT solutions? Pay me a salary. Otherwise suck it up princess, deal with it. Where there's smoke there's fire, if a lot of people are complaining about something it's not for no reason, even you should be able to understand that. Previous years have been rain affected and the association has managed it without as much of a pushback as this year, give me an EXACT reason for that
PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
what could have helped the rest of the comp play more games is not cancelling a whole round to replay half the previous round whcih is something they did
so instead of only half the comp missing a game everyone in the whole comp then missed a game
what an idea by the bright sparks at nwsf
i have a mate that plays womens all age, shes played 10 games. some teams in her comp have played 11, and 1 team in the comp has played 12
she plays in a comp with a bye
how does it make sense to cancel all games if some of the grounds are closed when there is a bye in the comp
apparently this is too hard for the bright sparks at nwsf to figure out and its just easier to cancel whole rounds and say too bad
also, with ressies, some of the catchups from the first half of the season were played after round 18
how does it take that long to organise a catch up game
no wonder they couldnt organise the other two, wed be playing them at christmas time.
Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
That could be managed better in my view.
Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
THE ROCK wrote: ------------------------------------------ >
>Pretty simple actually.
>
>Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
>You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
>My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
>I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
>That could be managed better in my view.
>Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
>Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
>
>As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
>
>"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
>
>At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
>TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
>Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
>
>Just some thoughts..
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You are correct the association doesn't do enough to promote PL.
Spirit - different story completely. We constantly get it rammed down our throats how we shout support spirit even though them and us have absolutely no connection whatsoever
This is something HFI do very well. Big social media presence promoting the PL. Match of the round is live streamed. Golden boot tracked and promoted etc
Fundamentally, NPL and Association PL are very different.
The opportunites to promote locally which in turn would drive club sponsorship etc are unlimited.
In fact Mac Dragons probably have the best social media that i've seen, but probably stemming from the board being closely aligned with the PL team.
Most clubs have a PL team, but the board let them operate independantly or even worse see the PL team as a burden to the club, where it should be a pathway for junior development.
Much like some of the comments on this forum, "PL is not special", "PL players shouldn't get preference over AA Players", it shows some people simply don't get it.
****waiting it get flamed by some keyboard warrior......
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>Fundamentally, NPL and Association PL are very different.
>
>The opportunites to promote locally which in turn would drive club sponsorship etc are unlimited.
>In fact Mac Dragons probably have the best social media that i've seen, but probably stemming from the board being closely aligned with the PL team.
>
>Most clubs have a PL team, but the board let them operate independantly or even worse see the PL team as a burden to the club, where it should be a pathway for junior development.
>
>Much like some of the comments on this forum, "PL is not special", "PL players shouldn't get preference over AA Players", it shows some people simply don't get it.
>
>****waiting it get flamed by some keyboard warrior......
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thanks so much
I try my best with all our social media. I'm no graphic designer or anything close but it seems to work out & looks pretty good. I am looking for a volunteer to take over though for next season as I don't have the time, payment a snag & can of coke. Same payment we give our PL players. LOL 😂
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>THE ROCK wrote: ------------------------------------------ >
>>Pretty simple actually.
>>
>>Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
>>You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
>>My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
>>I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
>>That could be managed better in my view.
>>Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
>>Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
>>
>>As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
>>
>>"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
>>
>>At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
>>TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
>>Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
>>
>>Just some thoughts..
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>You are correct the association doesn't do enough to promote PL.
>Spirit - different story completely. We constantly get it rammed down our throats how we shout support spirit even though them and us have absolutely no connection whatsoever
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how & when have Spirit ever supported the associated clubs?
we're asked to support spirit but do they or have they ever supported us clubs?
Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
Corpus wrote: ------------------------------------------ >>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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you serious? West Epping has better spectator area than Christie's
Y Man wrote: ------------------------------------------ >
>Corpus wrote: ------------------------------------------ >>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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>you serious? West Epping has better spectator area than Christie's
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Observer
wrote on 15-Aug-22 09:56Hey Guys,
Whats the format for the finals?
1v2
3v4
L1v2 vs W3v4
Winners in the GF?
I'm assuming it's all at christie or Penno?
close
wrote on 15-Aug-22 10:23its 1v4 and 2v3
losers out
winners to gf
semis at christie this weekend
ressies at 5 and firsts at 7
dumb
wrote on 15-Aug-22 12:20close wrote:
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>its 1v4 and 2v3
>losers out
>winners to gf
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>semis at christie this weekend
>ressies at 5 and firsts at 7
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Why would GHFA do that.
All the other comps are still playing round games.
Thats so dumb.
Do a proper job you muppets....
1 game
wrote on 15-Aug-22 13:15dumb wrote:
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>close wrote:
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>>its 1v4 and 2v3
>>losers out
>>winners to gf
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>>semis at christie this weekend
>>ressies at 5 and firsts at 7
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>Why would GHFA do that.
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>All the other comps are still playing round games.
>Thats so dumb.
>Do a proper job you muppets....
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im not sure why they need to finish the season by the last week of august
they have christie, they could easily play a proper finals setup
the funny thing is the only teams this way disadvantages is 1st and 2nd as they dont get a second chance
and 3rd and 4th only have to win 1 game to make the gf
Meds
wrote on 15-Aug-22 14:47FFS Ressies have lost 2 regular season games + 1 semi, 1st grade have lost 0 regular season games + 1 semi.
Get a grip, most AA comps have lost 2-4 games and dont have any semi's.
Some of you blokes would find $50 on the street and complain it wasnt $100.
1800 551 800 is Kids Helpline if you need someone to talk to.
Dumb
wrote on 15-Aug-22 15:55Meds wrote:
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>FFS Ressies have lost 2 regular season games + 1 semi, 1st grade have lost 0 regular season games + 1 semi.
>Get a grip, most AA comps have lost 2-4 games and dont have any semi's.
>Some of you blokes would find $50 on the street and complain it wasnt $100.
>1800 551 800 is Kids Helpline if you need someone to talk to.
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Why are you even on this forum?
Go play your all age with your "special" friends.
We ALL including you and your special friends, pay rego fees.
There is no reason why they shorten the season. No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered".
Go back 10 years, we had to hand over grounds to other sports and the decision made sense, but now it's simply laziness.
And before you get on your soap box and tell me "i should be gratefull bla bla bla". I'm not!
Ross and Kay Iredale did the job of 8 NWSF staff for 1/10th of the salary they have and guess what.... it was done correctly.
As we are paying your salary, we have every right to ask you to do it properly.
Let's watch the Womens Comp will have a proper finals series....
Dumb
wrote on 15-Aug-22 15:57And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
Jog on Dumbo
wrote on 15-Aug-22 16:14Dumb wrote:
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>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
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>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
Left back wonderkid
wrote on 15-Aug-22 20:19Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
the Joker
wrote on 15-Aug-22 20:57Left back wonderkid wrote:
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>Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
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I was 100% onboard with believing this up to the point you said he played for Normo then I realised it was a joke
Left back wonderkid
wrote on 15-Aug-22 21:57the Joker wrote:
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>Left back wonderkid wrote:
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>>Forget the argument of whether the association has been lazy or not, the real discussion we should be having is about the talented Normo ressies left back. What a player he is. He has blistering fast pace, a deadly left foot, the touch of a thousand men, and glorious long red hair. He has flexed 1% of his ability in his last 2 matches by scoring puskas worth goals. Wouldn't be suprised if an A league team snaps him up by next season.
>
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>I was 100% onboard with believing this up to the point you said he played for Normo then I realised it was a joke
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You won't be laughing when he whips in a deadly cross that accidentally goes into the goal
Dumb
wrote on 16-Aug-22 01:52Jog on Dumbo wrote:
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>Dumb wrote:
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>>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
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>>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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>
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>Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
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So you are ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
who cares about hills football? They have only been around 5 minutes and have like 3 staff.
Nwsf have triple the amount of paid staff, yet can't organise a full season / full finals series.
And what is your reasoning for argument? Is there a valid reason?
compare yourself to eastern suburbs PL, play a full season PLUS a full finals series...
Move on
wrote on 16-Aug-22 09:17Dumb wrote:
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>Jog on Dumbo wrote:
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>>Dumb wrote:
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>>>And before someone says i'm from WPH, i'm not. My team didn't even make the 4...
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>>>I'm just a firm believer that the association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
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>>Or some, like yourself, are simply completely naive to the running of the Assocition, or arrogant enough to think the footballing world revolves around the precious PL park footballers. Go join HFI with their 14 games only played plus a bye in their comp. You're lucky you're even getting semis. HFI at one stage were just having 1 and 2 straight through but luckily the clubs blew up about that just to get a semi in.
>
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>So you are ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
>who cares about hills football? They have only been around 5 minutes and have like 3 staff.
>
>Nwsf have triple the amount of paid staff, yet can't organise a full season / full finals series.
>And what is your reasoning for argument? Is there a valid reason?
>
>compare yourself to eastern suburbs PL, play a full season PLUS a full finals series...
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sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
Accepted solution
wrote on 16-Aug-22 09:42I can't believe people just accept that....
it's so wrong.
Cronulla Local
wrote on 16-Aug-22 10:11Move on wrote:
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>sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
You definately have a "love it or leave" aussie flag tattoo on your chest.
Keeping on moving on
wrote on 16-Aug-22 11:00Cronulla Local wrote:
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>Move on wrote:
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>>sounds like the perfect solution in that last sentence. F off to eastern suburbs then tool. Or how about you take it up with your club to enquire rather than bitching and moaning on here and on suicide watch over not enough games. Wahh boohoo
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>So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
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>You definately have a "love it or leave" aussie flag tattoo on your chest.
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No I think you missed the only non sarcastic portion of the sentence, genius. Take it up with your club and stop whining about it here. This is an uninfluential forum with zero input really. #takeitupwithyourclub #moveon
Ignorance is bliss
wrote on 16-Aug-22 11:14> So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
>
> ... Do a proper job you muppets
> ... There is no reason why they shorten the season.
> ... No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered".
> ... but now it's simply laziness.
> ... association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
> ... ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
Yep, yep, yep... sure sounds constructive to me.
So, let's hear this constructive advice that you have... and I don't mean "just let premier league play".
SPECIFICALLY, how would you have done things differently that would have meant that everyone gets what they want (incl. kids, women, all-age, PL, SL, O35, O45, referees, councils, et al)? No arm-wavy statements please... I'm keen to hear the EXACT changes you'd advocate for.
M.oliver
wrote on 16-Aug-22 11:21why don't they extend the PL season by one more week-end?
Penno turf should still be free of sports activities
Take stock
wrote on 16-Aug-22 11:45PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
Meds
wrote on 16-Aug-22 12:00Take stock wrote:
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>PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
>First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
>If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
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This post is too rational for this forum.
watts
wrote on 16-Aug-22 12:02>>> it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years
Only if you are comparing it with the same budget
the old team would never have partial rounds. it's all on or cancelled
Deets
wrote on 16-Aug-22 12:22Ignorance is bliss wrote:
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> So your solution to a problem is to ignore it and anyone who constructively criticize's it can FK off to another association?
>
> ... Do a proper job you muppets
> ... There is no reason why they shorten the season.
> ... No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered".
> ... but now it's simply laziness.
> ... association has been sooooo lazy this year and everyone is just accepting it.
> ... ok with playing limited games for no real reason?
>Yep, yep, yep... sure sounds constructive to me.
>So, let's hear this constructive advice that you have... and I don't mean "just let premier league play".
>SPECIFICALLY, how would you have done things differently that would have meant that everyone gets what they want (incl. kids, women, all-age, PL, SL, O35, O45, referees, councils, et al)? No arm-wavy statements please... I'm keen to hear the EXACT changes you'd advocate for.
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Theres a lot more constructive feedback on this forum than the cherry-picked whinging you've selected.
You want EXACT solutions? Pay me a salary. Otherwise suck it up princess, deal with it. Where there's smoke there's fire, if a lot of people are complaining about something it's not for no reason, even you should be able to understand that. Previous years have been rain affected and the association has managed it without as much of a pushback as this year, give me an EXACT reason for that
Take stock
wrote on 16-Aug-22 13:03PL is where my loyalties lie primarily, BUT, I'm sorry, this is not NPL football and should NOT get exactly what it wants at the expense of every age group.
First grade got a full season in and the finals format was well established so nothing has changed. If anything the ressies could complain that this season for cut short, and before anyone says anything to the contrary, yes, it does matter to those that play in it and to all clubs with a "squad" mentality.
If you don't like it, as said above, please provide realistic and reasonable alternative suggestions to your club delegates to take to NWSF for consideration (and I am absolutely not a fan of NWSF, it was run far better by Ross, Kay and Nicole for many years).
problems that are easy to fix
wrote on 16-Aug-22 13:34what could have helped the rest of the comp play more games is not cancelling a whole round to replay half the previous round whcih is something they did
so instead of only half the comp missing a game everyone in the whole comp then missed a game
what an idea by the bright sparks at nwsf
i have a mate that plays womens all age, shes played 10 games. some teams in her comp have played 11, and 1 team in the comp has played 12
she plays in a comp with a bye
how does it make sense to cancel all games if some of the grounds are closed when there is a bye in the comp
apparently this is too hard for the bright sparks at nwsf to figure out and its just easier to cancel whole rounds and say too bad
also, with ressies, some of the catchups from the first half of the season were played after round 18
how does it take that long to organise a catch up game
no wonder they couldnt organise the other two, wed be playing them at christmas time.
miso
wrote on 16-Aug-22 13:51Dumb wrote:
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>Meds wrote:
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>>FFS Ressies have lost 2 regular season games + 1 semi, 1st grade have lost 0 regular season games + 1 semi.
>>Get a grip, most AA comps have lost 2-4 games and dont have any semi's.
>>Some of you blokes would find $50 on the street and complain it wasnt $100.
>>1800 551 800 is Kids Helpline if you need someone to talk to.
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>Why are you even on this forum?
>Go play your all age with your "special" friends.
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>We ALL including you and your special friends, pay rego fees.
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>There is no reason why they shorten the season. No realistic excuse. NONE... Apart from "I couldnt be bothered".
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>Go back 10 years, we had to hand over grounds to other sports and the decision made sense, but now it's simply laziness.
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>And before you get on your soap box and tell me "i should be gratefull bla bla bla". I'm not!
>Ross and Kay Iredale did the job of 8 NWSF staff for 1/10th of the salary they have and guess what.... it was done correctly.
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>As we are paying your salary, we have every right to ask you to do it properly.
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>Let's watch the Womens Comp will have a proper finals series....
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the womens prems comp is playing a proper finals series
and there is a $2k prize to the grand final winner
fuck men
watts
wrote on 16-Aug-22 13:54>> the womens prems comp is playing a proper finals series
and there is a $2k prize to the grand final winner
fuck men <<
that's bit blatant.
Thanks for coming.,
hopefully
wrote on 16-Aug-22 14:04hopefully they dont organise our grand finals at the same time as the NPL grand final
would be good to be able to watch both
THE ROCK
wrote on 17-Aug-22 10:36Pretty simple actually.
Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
That could be managed better in my view.
Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
Just some thoughts..
Good points
wrote on 17-Aug-22 11:05THE ROCK wrote:
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>Pretty simple actually.
>
>Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
>You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
>My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
>I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
>That could be managed better in my view.
>Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
>Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
>
>As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
>
>"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
>
>At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
>TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
>Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
>
>Just some thoughts..
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You are correct the association doesn't do enough to promote PL.
Spirit - different story completely.
We constantly get it rammed down our throats how we shout support spirit even though them and us have absolutely no connection whatsoever
HFI do it better
wrote on 17-Aug-22 11:15This is something HFI do very well. Big social media presence promoting the PL. Match of the round is live streamed. Golden boot tracked and promoted etc
THE ROCK
wrote on 17-Aug-22 13:46Fundamentally, NPL and Association PL are very different.
The opportunites to promote locally which in turn would drive club sponsorship etc are unlimited.
In fact Mac Dragons probably have the best social media that i've seen, but probably stemming from the board being closely aligned with the PL team.
Most clubs have a PL team, but the board let them operate independantly or even worse see the PL team as a burden to the club, where it should be a pathway for junior development.
Much like some of the comments on this forum, "PL is not special", "PL players shouldn't get preference over AA Players", it shows some people simply don't get it.
****waiting it get flamed by some keyboard warrior......
Good looking
wrote on 18-Aug-22 15:53THE ROCK wrote:
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>Fundamentally, NPL and Association PL are very different.
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>The opportunites to promote locally which in turn would drive club sponsorship etc are unlimited.
>In fact Mac Dragons probably have the best social media that i've seen, but probably stemming from the board being closely aligned with the PL team.
>
>Most clubs have a PL team, but the board let them operate independantly or even worse see the PL team as a burden to the club, where it should be a pathway for junior development.
>
>Much like some of the comments on this forum, "PL is not special", "PL players shouldn't get preference over AA Players", it shows some people simply don't get it.
>
>****waiting it get flamed by some keyboard warrior......
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thanks so much
I try my best with all our social media.
I'm no graphic designer or anything close but it seems to work out & looks pretty good.
I am looking for a volunteer to take over though for next season as I don't have the time, payment a snag & can of coke. Same payment we give our PL players.
LOL 😂
Spirit Pfffftt
wrote on 18-Aug-22 17:32Good points wrote:
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>THE ROCK wrote:
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>>Pretty simple actually.
>>
>>Get a list of grounds which are open @ 4pm on a Friday for the rounds where the rain affects play and play as many games as possible.
>>You don't have to be a genius to recognise to look a bit further into the winter months and see the forecasted rainfall. Even start the season a bit earlier.
>>My big issue with the assocation this year is they didn't play enough games when they could have. From Grass roots, to PL and then they make posts to make people feel warm and fuzzy about "great to see juniors on Penno Park at last".
>>I appreciate that there is multiple councils involved each week in Ryde, Parramatta, Hornsby, Hills with all making different decisions regarding pitch availability, BUT there were weekends where games could have been played and they wern't.
>>That could be managed better in my view.
>>Plus, you can't say mini's or U8's are going to do anywhere near the damage of a PL/SL/AA/35 game, so this possibly could be taken up with the council too, not a blatent it's closed cause it's unsafe.
>>Unsafe for AA men can be because of slide tackles and other dangerous things which are not heard of really in juniors.
>>
>>As for the comments about firsts got a full season and ressies didn't. PL is a SQUAD competition, not a grade 1 and grade 2. Playing Firsts without ressies actually destroyed the competition. And I appreciate i'm an easy target here cause my club didn't make the finals( and i'm by no means dirty about it as we simply wernt good enough this year), but i've spoken to many managers across the association and we are all on the same page regarding this.
>>
>>"Taking it up with your club" will get you no where. Clubs often don't want to deliver the honest truth regarding constructive feedback because of being frowned upon by the assocation for creating a storm in a teacup!
>>
>>At the end of the day, WE ALL just want to enjoy football and play it as much as possible. PL/SL has a history to it, unlike AA divisions and other lower divisions.
>>TBH i think the assocation doesn't do enough to promote the local PL to it's younger audience in the mini's/juniors. I applaud clubs like Normo, WPH, North Epping and Hawks who have charity days and Back to Normo Days to align the juniors to the seniors.
>>Refs have been really good this year in my view(not perfect but nor are we as players and coaches).
>>
>>Just some thoughts..
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>You are correct the association doesn't do enough to promote PL.
>Spirit - different story completely.
We constantly get it rammed down our throats how we shout support spirit even though them and us have absolutely no connection whatsoever
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how & when have Spirit ever supported the associated clubs?
we're asked to support spirit but do they or have they ever supported us clubs?
I think not.
Don't give a toss about spirit
watts
wrote on 22-Aug-22 15:19Can you borrow players from AA1s/2s in a GF?
Definitely
wrote on 22-Aug-22 16:00watts wrote:
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>Can you borrow players from AA1s/2s in a GF?
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YES
Corpus
wrote on 22-Aug-22 17:23Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
Sunday is fine
wrote on 22-Aug-22 17:47Corpus wrote:
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>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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They were Sundays last time
Y Man
wrote on 22-Aug-22 17:50Corpus wrote:
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>>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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you serious? West Epping has better spectator area than Christie's
What a comment
wrote on 22-Aug-22 17:57Y Man wrote:
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>Corpus wrote:
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>>Christie Park is booked for Spirit games on Saturday 3rd September so if a normal finals format was to be played the Association would have to play the GF's at Penno or Epping. Not spectator friendly grounds for large crowds. Otherwise it would have to be Sunday GF's.
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>you serious? West Epping has better spectator area than Christie's
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Thats your attempt at comedy, right?