Mary Flower

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Problem
wrote on 03-Mar-24 19:26

Yes i know this doesn’t belong on the Mens PL forum but this is where what i am writing will get the greatest exposure.

 

For those who don’t know the name Riley Dennis, “she” was the topic of much discussion last season.

Riley is a 6”4 man who was playing Womens NPL for Inter Lions.

Riley wasn’t the only player who appeared to look different in the NPL competition and Inter Lions had at least a couple of these players.

 

There was a lot of negativity surrounding these players and artilcles even appeared in the main NSW newspapers.

Facebook’s NSW NPL Banter Page was the main flag bearer campaigning against this lunacy. Many posts are still on their page pertaining to this issue.

 

FNSW felt the pressure and introduced a new policy regarding testosterone levels in players. The result - Riley Dennis has too much testosterone to play WNPL.

But it’s ok to play against our Associations 16,17,18 year old girls. An absolute JOKE.

It’s only a matter until one of the players gets a serious injury. I hope NWSF lawyer up.

 

Now, part 2 of this issue.

For those who aren’t aware, there is a club in our Association called The Flying Bats. Self-proclaimed “biggest lesbian club in the world”. As described by themselves, it’s a club for women, trans and non-binary players.

For all i know about being involved in this Association for a while, this is a well run, friendly club.

But obviously there’s a big issue here.

 

Last season the Flying Bats Premier League squad contained what looked to be 5 or 6 players who were at the very least, trans gender. Some actually just looked exactly like a male.

Not only is this unfair for the rest of the competition but obviously unsafe for the players.

Fast forward to this season’s team and it appears they have recruited a couple of new ones, including Riley Dennis.

 

So Riley Dennis can knock in the goals for fun and make a complete mockery of the WPL competition.

 

It appears it’s all good as far as NWSF goes.

Where do we go from here?

Woke joke
wrote on 03-Mar-24 19:57

Seems to me that everyone thinks it is better to pander to the woke brigade than think about the safety and enjoyment of teenage girls and young women.

Is it possible for all other clubs to refuse to play against them? Just forfeit. It keeps a leve playing field for every other team in terms of results and league positions but sends a clear message that the safety and well-being of players is the most important thing here.

In the past I've always thought the idea of the Bats club as somewhere inclusive and a "safe space" for a marginalised section of our society was a good thing but when it crosses the line in terms of allowing players who physiologically have the potential to significantly hurt the opposition then it's just plain wrong.

Concerned parent
wrote on 03-Mar-24 20:30

Why is NWSF permitting this while FNSW is not?


I'm concerned about the safety and comfort of my 16/17-year-old daughter playing against not one but many 30-year-old men in a women's-only competition.

If he or any of these males wish to participate, they should do so in a mixed competition, not in a women's-only comp.
Ensuring my daughter's safety and comfort during her matches against other women is paramount, and I may now need to reconsider the registration we've already paid for.

Concerned
wrote on 03-Mar-24 21:18

It happened again today. A North Ryde player injured in a clumsy challenge by one of the transitioned players. Not to mention the goalkeeper would not look out of place in the men's super league competition with their ability level, throwing the ball to near halfway and kicking it 3/4 the length of the field

Its great they want to play, but why are they not playing in the appropriately labelled mixed competition?

Mixed
wrote on 03-Mar-24 21:22

There shouldn't be a mixed competition. There is a girl's/women's comp so why isn't there one for the boys/men?

 

Pathetic virtue signalling pandering.

 

Its not difficult. You play in the boys/mens or you play in the girls/womens. There are no other genders so there should be no difficulty working out where you should be playing.

 

Absolute bullshit.

Joke
wrote on 04-Mar-24 11:53

A swift kick between the legs will help determine what 'gender' they are.

they need to be playing in a men's comp where they belong, not bullying women.

association needs to pull their heads in!!!!!

if FNSW is not allowing it, how the hell is NWSF?!?

 

what a disgrace.

id be protesting for sure

Forfeit
wrote on 04-Mar-24 11:57

Everyone should forfeit against them every week.

simple!

 

Toovey
wrote on 04-Mar-24 12:11

Where in any sport except chess is it fair for a lady to compete against a man.

This is bullshit forfeit every game and tell your club who should be supporting you not to pay the fine.

Concerned
wrote on 04-Mar-24 15:04

It happened again today. A North Ryde player injured in a clumsy challenge by one of the transitioned players. Not to mention the goalkeeper would not look out of place in the men's super league competition with their ability level, throwing the ball to near halfway and kicking it 3/4 the length of the field

Its great they want to play, but why are they not playing in the appropriately labelled mixed competition?

Silly
wrote on 04-Mar-24 15:17

Concerned wrote:
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>It happened again today. A North Ryde player injured in a clumsy challenge by one of the transitioned players. Not to mention the goalkeeper would not look out of place in the men's super league competition with their ability level, throwing the ball to near halfway and kicking it 3/4 the length of the field

>Its great they want to play, but why are they not playing in the appropriately labelled mixed competition?


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They started to become aggressive towards the girls near the end. It seems they get worse every year, I couldn't name one single person who support these 'girls' being in the competition.

Honestly wouldnt have an issue if they were fully transitioned but some of the players look like they havent even started transitioning and are just legit dudes in wigs, the goalkeeper especially, its just unfair. A lot of them are generally assholes as well, seen them play quite a few times.

Samuel Karr
wrote on 05-Mar-24 11:06

Stay tuned. Mass club action incoming

The Mole
wrote on 05-Mar-24 12:18

Samuel Karr wrote:
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>Stay tuned. Mass club action incoming


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If so the clubs standing up for commonsense, the protection and safety of its female players will be the beneficiaries of enormous support not just locally but nationally and internationally.

Wonder if Football Australia and Football NSW will try to intimidate and bully these clubs like they tried with participants speaking out against it a year or so ago.

 

Womp womp
wrote on 06-Mar-24 07:37

What a joke.

This might be the next granville comp.

Something doesn’t add up
wrote on 06-Mar-24 09:17

There is only one association on NSW which allows these players to play in a womens comp. 
Yep you guessed it - ours. 
Why? Very interesting 

The Mole
wrote on 06-Mar-24 10:26

Something doesn’t add up wrote:
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>There is only one association on NSW which allows these players to play in a womens comp. 
Yep you guessed it - ours. 
Why? Very interesting 


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To give you some background as to why this is happening.

 

Prior to the merge Flying Bats were part of the NWSWF Association.

They weren't even located in the geographical boundaries of the association, however they were permitted to compete as a "Guest" club under the constitution and regulations.

 

Flying Bats have always had their sympathisers in positions of decision making back in the days of the Women's Association and those same sympathisers are in positions of decision making within NWSF Ltd.

 

One interesting fact is that the Flying Bats have changed their official registered address to now be within the geographical boundaries of this association but still train out of Tempe Reserve.

Below is the permissible clause in the NWS Football regulations that allows this to happen.

5.2 GENDER ELIGIBILITY
5.2.1 In line with the FA Member Protection Policy, players may register and participate based on their gender identification.

The Mole
wrote on 06-Mar-24 10:36

Something doesn’t add up wrote:
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>There is only one association on NSW which allows these players to play in a womens comp. 
Yep you guessed it - ours. 
Why? Very interesting 


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To give you some background as to why this is happening.

 

Prior to the merge Flying Bats were part of the NWSWF Association.

They weren't even located in the geographical boundaries of the association, however they were permitted to compete as a "Guest" club under the constitution and regulations.

 

Flying Bats have always had their sympathisers in positions of decision making back in the days of the Women's Association and those same sympathisers are in positions of decision making within NWSF Ltd.

 

One interesting fact is that the Flying Bats have changed their official registered address to now be within the geographical boundaries of this association but still train out of Tempe Reserve.

Below is the permissible clause in the NWS Football regulations that allows this to happen.

5.2 GENDER ELIGIBILITY
5.2.1 In line with the FA Member Protection Policy, players may register and participate based on their gender identification.

Wowza
wrote on 06-Mar-24 11:09

Fuck me what a joke. I play prems, me and the lads may just identify as female now so we can play in the women's comp. Obviously it doesn't matter if you're transitioning or not, based on what you identify yourself as lmao. Let's see the associate knock it back when all of a sudden 5/6 of us say we're female!

see you all out on the field ;)

No name
wrote on 06-Mar-24 11:22

Wowza wrote:
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>Fuck me what a joke. I play prems, me and the lads may just identify as female now so we can play in the women's comp. Obviously it doesn't matter if you're transitioning or not, based on what you identify yourself as lmao. Let's see the associate knock it back when all of a sudden 5/6 of us say we're female!

>see you all out on the field ;)


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It sounds ridiculous but you are absolutely correct. 
You and your mate just say "im a female" and boom you are playing against my 16 year old daughter. Laughable and an absolute joke

Wowza
wrote on 06-Mar-24 20:00

Fuck me what a joke. I play prems, me and the lads may just identify as female now so we can play in the women's comp. Obviously it doesn't matter if you're transitioning or not, based on what you identify yourself as lmao. Let's see the associate knock it back when all of a sudden 5/6 of us say we're female!

see you all out on the field ;)

Correct me?
wrote on 07-Mar-24 10:48

Correct me if i'm wrong, but flying batts arnt from our area? they are from the city somewhere?

yup
wrote on 07-Mar-24 11:23

Correct me? wrote:
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>Correct me if i'm wrong, but flying batts arnt from our area? they are from the city somewhere?


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you are right they are not from the area but our association is the only one that will let the blokes play in the womens comp so they've changed their home field to be within the boundaries of nwsf.

really?
wrote on 07-Mar-24 12:06

hmmm.

 

 

What the actual F

See ya
wrote on 07-Mar-24 14:54

Sources say a couple players from Normo are looking to transition into the women's league. Makes sense since all they do is winge all the time

The Mole
wrote on 07-Mar-24 17:40

See ya wrote:
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>Sources say a couple players from Normo are looking to transition into the women's league. Makes sense since all they do is winge all the time


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Are you being serious?

Walter
wrote on 08-Mar-24 06:39

The Mole wrote:
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>See ya wrote:
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>>Sources say a couple players from Normo are looking to transition into the women's league. Makes sense since all they do is winge all the time

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>Are you being serious?


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Hes kidding

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 08-Mar-24 13:54

now now stop being racist you white basss.. boys

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I 'll pay $5 to see Riley knocked down a few pins

 

Tony Abbott
wrote on 08-Mar-24 21:38

This thread is a bunch of dinosaurs. So embarrassing.  Fuck off you gutless ignorant boomers / people from the hills district. 

Fuck off Abbott
wrote on 09-Mar-24 07:10

If you're looking for "gutless" go to the Bats and you'll find a load of blokes who choose to play football against teenage girls because they haven't got the balls - pun intended - to step on a pitch with other men.

 

 

Well in sar
wrote on 09-Mar-24 08:05

Fuck off Abbott wrote:
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>If you're looking for "gutless" go to the Bats and you'll find a load of blokes who choose to play football against teenage girls because they haven't got the balls - pun intended - to step on a pitch with other men.


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Brilliantly put

The Mole
wrote on 09-Mar-24 09:34

According to the nominations received Flying Bats have the following teams, WPL, WAA1, WAA3, WAA6, WAA8, O30/1, O30/2 and O30/3.

I made be wrong but I don't believe any other club in the competition has more teams nominated in these divisions than Flying Bats.

 

Bon Jovi
wrote on 09-Mar-24 10:21

The Mole wrote:
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>According to the nominations received Flying Bats have the following teams, WPL, WAA1, WAA3, WAA6, WAA8, O30/1, O30/2 and O30/3.

>I made be wrong but I don't believe any other club in the competition has more teams nominated in these divisions than Flying Bats.


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Wonder if those teams are half made up of 6"0 blokes with long hair too

Ann Jovi
wrote on 09-Mar-24 15:42

GHFA should never have merged with the womens comp. All they do is bang on about the women's leagues then allow blokes to play in it anyway. 

This is what happens when you have too many apologists making decisions.

 

This is why the world needs the Donald Trumps and Vladimir Putins. Too many Anthony Albaneses in high positions for my liking.

Ann Jovi
wrote on 09-Mar-24 15:42

GHFA should never have merged with the womens comp. All they do is bang on about the women's leagues then allow blokes to play in it anyway. 

This is what happens when you have too many apologists making decisions.

 

This is why the world needs the Donald Trumps and Vladimir Putins. Too many Anthony Albaneses in high positions for my liking.

Pen15 man
wrote on 09-Mar-24 19:18

Samuel Kerr wrote:
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>now now stop being racist you white basss.. boys

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>I 'll pay $5 to see Riley knocked down a few pins


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Racist? hahahahha

HE is gutless HE would rather knock over women.

Come play with the real men he would be taught a lesson.

 

"Ryan" Dennis
wrote on 10-Mar-24 16:26

Just the casual 6 goals for "Ryan" Dennis this morning in a 10-0 drubbing of Ravens PL side 

The Mole
wrote on 10-Mar-24 23:31

"Ryan" Dennis wrote:
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>Just the casual 6 goals for "Ryan" Dennis this morning in a 10-0 drubbing of Ravens PL side 


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The Bats weren't even in top gear against Ravens, cruise mode it was.

 

One thing that didn't go unnoticed was that in the 2nd half the Bats 1st half goalkeeper was replaced and allowed to play up front on the field and there was one particular slide tackle which was dangerous to say the least and fortunately it didn't make contact with a Ravens player otherwise it could've resulted in injury. The aggression in the air from the same Bats player was completely unnecessary as the result of the game was done and dusted by halftime.

 

 

Unbelievable
wrote on 11-Mar-24 09:45

The fact that men are allwoed to play against women in our association is a joke. Puts all women who play in our PL at risk of serious injury. What world are we living in  here ? since when was it ok to let men play against women. Its going to take a serious injury for anything to be done. I wonder how the fools that make these decisons at NWSFA would you feel if one of their daughters were injured by one of these gutless men who decide to play against women in our PL. Come play mens PL and see how youd fair against someone of your own gender

Wonder
wrote on 11-Mar-24 10:55

I wonder what the regular Bats lesbian  players think of this. 
Their team has almost been hijacked by these men who in essence only pass to themselves and love patting themselves on the back after scoring endless screamers against young women goalkeepers and defencers while winning by double figures. 
How exciting 

kenthurst keith
wrote on 11-Mar-24 23:41

your all fat how many pies did u eat in the off season should be sponsered by jenny craig hills would never let blokes play womens but then your mens premir leage is full of big girls

The Mole
wrote on 12-Mar-24 07:22

kenthurst keith wrote:
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>your all fat how many pies did u eat in the off season should be sponsered by jenny craig hills would never let blokes play womens but then your mens premir leage is full of big girls


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It's a concerning thread and you come on and post irrelevant rubbish.

 

How about you contribute something mature and intelligent to the discussion.

 

Grow up.

The Mole
wrote on 12-Mar-24 08:04

kenthurst keith wrote:
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>your all fat how many pies did u eat in the off season should be sponsered by jenny craig hills would never let blokes play womens but then your mens premir leage is full of big girls


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It's a concerning thread and you come on and post irrelevant rubbish.

 

How about you contribute something mature and intelligent to the discussion.

 

Grow up.

Gary Player
wrote on 12-Mar-24 11:28

Transgender Golfer Booted After Woman's Pro Tour Adopts 'Biological At Birth' Rules

 
TUESDAY, MAR 12, 2024 - 09:00 AM

“Effective immediately, I have been removed (banned) from the next 3 NXXT tournaments that I already signed up for and been approved to play,” wrote transgender golfer Hailey Davidson last week.

The message came after he/she was removed from the NXXT Women's Pro Tour, who has now announced that participants must be “a biological female at birth” to participate in its events, according to Fox News and the NY Post. 

Davidson expressed his/her discontent because he/she was already crushing the woman's field: “They changed their policy mid season, after me signing up already and being 2nd in Player of the Year race.” 

The tour faced massive backlash after Davidson won a tournament earlier this year that attracted significant media attention. 

NXXT GOLF CEO Stuart McKinnon said: “As we navigate through the evolving landscape of sports, it is crucial to uphold the competitive integrity that is the cornerstone of women’s sports.”

M.oliver
wrote on 12-Mar-24 11:56

Aust is super w0ke these days. . . unreal

The Mole
wrote on 12-Mar-24 12:27

Gary Player wrote:
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Transgender Golfer Booted After Woman's Pro Tour Adopts 'Biological At Birth' Rules

 
TUESDAY, MAR 12, 2024 - 09:00 AM

>“Effective immediately, I have been removed (banned) from the next 3 NXXT tournaments that I already signed up for and been approved to play,” wrote transgender golfer Hailey Davidson last week.

>The message came after he/she was removed from the NXXT Women's Pro Tour, who has now announced that participants must be “a biological female at birth” to participate in its events, according to Fox News and the NY Post. 

>Davidson expressed his/her discontent because he/she was already crushing the woman's field: “They changed their policy mid season, after me signing up already and being 2nd in Player of the Year race.” 

>The tour faced massive backlash after Davidson won a tournament earlier this year that attracted significant media attention. 

>NXXT GOLF CEO Stuart McKinnon said: “As we navigate through the evolving landscape of sports, it is crucial to uphold the competitive integrity that is the cornerstone of women’s sports.”


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Thank you for posting.

 

👏👏👏

Teddi Bear
wrote on 12-Mar-24 15:44

The concerns on here are real and dare i say, seeing as how its on the Mens PL page, the vast majority on here aren't even directly affected and the feeling is overwhelming. 
There is a big possibility the whole state/country will have eyes on this issue. 
Let's see if NWSF have the balls to do something to avoid the competition being an absolute farce

simple
wrote on 12-Mar-24 16:07

Either forfeit every game played against them, or send your mens PL team into "BAT".... See how they like playing against biological males.

The Mole
wrote on 12-Mar-24 17:38

simple wrote:
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>Either forfeit every game played against them, or send your mens PL team into "BAT".... See how they like playing against biological males.


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Couldn't agree more.

Dude Ranch
wrote on 12-Mar-24 18:00

I heard that round 8 in both MPL & WPL will be inclusion "pride round". All teams requested to support and wear rainbow coloured socks. Watch this space.

No chance
wrote on 12-Mar-24 18:48

Ain't no chance I'm doing that 

Fuck the rainbow
wrote on 12-Mar-24 20:20

I go out on a Saturday afternoon to play football with lads at the best level I can. I do it for me first and foremost, then for the other boys and also for the club.

 I'm not playing for any bullshit political agenda whatever it is. So no, I won't be wearing any stupid fucking socks.

Fuck the rainbow
wrote on 12-Mar-24 20:40

I go out on a Saturday afternoon to play football with lads at the best level I can. I do it for me first and foremost, then for the other boys and also for the club.

 I'm not playing for any bullshit political agenda whatever it is. So no, I won't be wearing any stupid fucking socks.

Fuck the rainbow
wrote on 12-Mar-24 20:42

I go out on a Saturday afternoon to play football with lads at the best level I can. I do it for me first and foremost, then for the other boys and also for the club.

 I'm not playing for any bullshit political agenda whatever it is. So no, I won't be wearing any stupid fucking socks.

Y Man
wrote on 12-Mar-24 20:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rz9DMuqGT4

play nice or your reg0 will be cancelled

What a disgrace
wrote on 12-Mar-24 23:09

They should not be able to play they are men what about the welfare of the women do they not care if they get hurt 

 

 

they should leave the division 

Simple
wrote on 13-Mar-24 00:48

Teams playing against these sick individuals need to just not turn up on game day. Simple. But has to be all clubs not just one or two. Then the association will get the message. Otherwise it's just going to continue.

 

if the association does read this then they should hang their heads in shame and whoever allowed it should resign from their position and never be involved in sports again. Particularly as this association "prides itself" on women's football yet allows men to join the women's comp.

 

as for the rainbow socks, I'm there on a Saturday arvo to play football. Not to make a political statement. Shove your rainbow up your arse 

What a disgrace
wrote on 13-Mar-24 08:01

They should not be able to play they are men what about the welfare of the women do they not care if they get hurt 

 

 

they should leave the division 

Reason
wrote on 13-Mar-24 09:01

There is a Womens comp and a Mixed comp. 
Some people don't realise that AA and PL comps are not called "Mens" - they are called "mixed".

They should play Mixed AA4 or whatever where they would be competitive. 

They have no place in the Womens comp. 
Massive shitstorm incoming. 
The Association need to act

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 13-Mar-24 11:36

Is the Pride Round confirm?

 

do we kneel or bend on the pitch? is it just the capt's arm band? whose giving out the socks? how much a pair?  who's paying?

give us details

 

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 13-Mar-24 11:39

Is the Pride Round confirm?

 

do we kneel or bend on the pitch? is it just the capt's arm band? whose giving out the socks? how much a pair?  who's paying?

give us details

 

FPR
wrote on 13-Mar-24 14:22

Fuck pride round

Daenerys Targaryen
wrote on 13-Mar-24 15:20

Samuel Kerr wrote:
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>Is the Pride Round confirm?

>do we kneel or bend on the pitch? is it just the capt's arm band? whose giving out the socks? how much a pair?  who's paying?

>give us details


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Bend the knee!

 

Sitting on hands
wrote on 13-Mar-24 15:52

Nearly 2000 views on this topic. 
People care. 

It seems the association couldn't care less. 

St Pats have already pulled out of the comp. 
Draw STILL not out. 

Circus

T1m Bailey
wrote on 13-Mar-24 15:58

"womens'" Ackroyd Cup

Flying Batts v Putney at Penno SYnthetic 1 PM Sat

 

 

 

 

Pumpers
wrote on 13-Mar-24 16:01

T1m Bailey wrote:
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>"womens'" Ackroyd Cup

>Flying Batts v Putney at Penno SYnthetic 1 PM Sat


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Putney are a good team. 
They will get pumped

Follow
wrote on 13-Mar-24 20:58

If St Pats have pulled out then the remaining FEMALE teams need to do so as well. Send the bats to the central coast comp 

Follow
wrote on 13-Mar-24 20:59

If St Pats have pulled out then the remaining FEMALE teams need to do so as well. Send the bats to the central coast comp 

Yeah…nah
wrote on 13-Mar-24 21:38

I say fuck the Bats......yeah...nah

T-man
wrote on 14-Mar-24 08:28

Watch out tough guys! After reading this thread I'm wearing screw-ins and aiming straight for the shins now

RR
wrote on 14-Mar-24 08:35

T-man wrote:
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>Watch out tough guys! After reading this thread I'm wearing screw-ins and aiming straight for the shins now


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Is that you Riley?

Adult Human Female
wrote on 14-Mar-24 09:57

T-man wrote:
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>Watch out tough guys! After reading this thread I'm wearing screw-ins and aiming straight for the shins now


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WOW...! SO it's bad enough that we have men playing against us, now you want to actively hurt us for saying NO!?

M.oliver
wrote on 14-Mar-24 10:34

Follow wrote:
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>If St Pats have pulled out then the remaining FEMALE teams need to do so as well. Send the bats to the central coast comp 


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is it tougher comp up in the coast?

T1m Bailey
wrote on 14-Mar-24 11:23

Pumpers wrote:
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>T1m Bailey wrote:
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>>"womens'" Ackroyd Cup

>>Flying Batts v Putney at Penno SYnthetic 1 PM Sat


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>Putney are a good team. 
They will get pumped


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Yes last yr's St Pat is a good team/.

Lets see them play the 'women' from Bats

 

No point
wrote on 14-Mar-24 12:31

Guy there's no point to any of this. 
NWSF will do absolutely nothing cos they are WEAK as fuck. 
Everybody knows this. 

They will come out and say "but we are making football equal and fair for all". 
Fair for Bats maybe. What about all the other clubs?

T-man
wrote on 14-Mar-24 13:47

Adult Human Female wrote:
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>T-man wrote:
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>>Watch out tough guys! After reading this thread I'm wearing screw-ins and aiming straight for the shins now

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>WOW...! SO it's bad enough that we have men playing against us, now you want to actively hurt us for saying NO!?


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Yep, the more you complain the harder I'm going into the 50/50's 

Riley
wrote on 14-Mar-24 13:50

Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!

Riley
wrote on 14-Mar-24 13:52

Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!

Jolly Roger
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Riley wrote:
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>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!


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Go away troll

Tom Melbourne
wrote on 15-Mar-24 09:11

Big news re this issue everyone. 
its truely shocking you will be amazed. 

Our association is just about to do

 

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The Mole
wrote on 15-Mar-24 11:28

The association will do nothing simply because their own regulations allow it and these players have paid registration fees and that registration has been duly accepted.

 

There are 2 courses of action an affected club can take and one is to forfeit against this club and cite the reason of player safety and the club has a duty of care to its members.

 

The other is to jump associations.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 15-Mar-24 12:51

Last Sunday at the Ravens vs Flying Bats game, a NWSF Board member was present and a question was put to them on whether there appeared to be any players on the field that could be born a male at birth?

The answer that came back was beyond beggar's belief, "no, nothing looks out of the ordinary".

 

Of course this person is entitled to their opinion but so is everyone else and despite the concerns of clubs and players alike this will continue on without any disturbance for years to come if that is the way it is.


The day will come when a female player gets injured in a bad challenge and onto the field comes husband or boyfriend and takes matters into his own hands.

 

Not a case of if, but a case of when.

 

So competitions should be designed on what gender you are at birth, not how you identify later.

 

You can identify how you want, but it doesn't override the gender born at birth.

 

Its either female or male and that's it.

 

 

Cod
wrote on 15-Mar-24 14:21

The Mole wrote:
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>

>Last Sunday at the Ravens vs Flying Bats game, a NWSF Board member was present and a question was put to them on whether there appeared to be any players on the field that could be born a male at birth?

>The answer that came back was beyond beggar's belief, "no, nothing looks out of the ordinary".

>Of course this person is entitled to their opinion but so is everyone else and despite the concerns of clubs and players alike this will continue on without any disturbance for years to come if that is the way it is.

>
The day will come when a female player gets injured in a bad challenge and onto the field comes husband or boyfriend and takes matters into his own hands.

>Not a case of if, but a case of when.

>So competitions should be designed on what gender you are at birth, not how you identify later.

>You can identify how you want, but it doesn't override the gender born at birth.

>Its either female or male and that's it.


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well, you weren't a piece of shit when you were born, but you've decided to become one later on in life so why is that any different ?

All rise
wrote on 15-Mar-24 14:35

If I was the father of a teenage girl who was injured as a result of the association knowingly allowing an individual who was male at birth and therefore physiologically significantly superior to my daughter but still permitted to play in a competition designated for females I might be extremely tempted to raise a court action against that association for negligence or similar.

NWSF Hopeless
wrote on 15-Mar-24 15:10

Any chance of the wpl draw coming out so we can all see this freak show up close

The Mole
wrote on 15-Mar-24 18:23

Cod wrote:
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>

>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>Last Sunday at the Ravens vs Flying Bats game, a NWSF Board member was present and a question was put to them on whether there appeared to be any players on the field that could be born a male at birth?

>>The answer that came back was beyond beggar's belief, "no, nothing looks out of the ordinary".

>> 

>>Of course this person is entitled to their opinion but so is everyone else and despite the concerns of clubs and players alike this will continue on without any disturbance for years to come if that is the way it is.

>>
The day will come when a female player gets injured in a bad challenge and onto the field comes husband or boyfriend and takes matters into his own hands.

>> 

>>Not a case of if, but a case of when.

>> 

>>So competitions should be designed on what gender you are at birth, not how you identify later.

>> 

>>You can identify how you want, but it doesn't override the gender born at birth.

>> 

>>Its either female or male and that's it.

>> 

>> 

>
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>well, you weren't a piece of shit when you were born, but you've decided to become one later on in life so why is that any different ?


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Difference is, I don't identify as a piece of shit.

 

Play nice, season hasn't even started yet and it will be a very very long one.

Frankie Forfeit
wrote on 15-Mar-24 18:33

A very short one for Flying Bats

The Mole
wrote on 15-Mar-24 18:50

NWSF Hopeless wrote:
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>

>Any chance of the wpl draw coming out so we can all see this freak show up close


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If you check on Dribl under Pre Season Beryl Ackroyd Cup you'll be able to reference all the information.

Main draw
wrote on 15-Mar-24 18:51

The Mole wrote:
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>

>NWSF Hopeless wrote:
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>

>>Any chance of the wpl draw coming out so we can all see this freak show up close

>
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>If you check on Dribl under Pre Season Beryl Ackroyd Cup you'll be able to reference all the information.


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For the league, not the cup

Seriously?
wrote on 16-Mar-24 10:24

Riley wrote:
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>

>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!


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Lol what kind of idiots do you think we are? 'Justin' friend, get him to leave and there is no issue. Go play in the mens

Seriously?
wrote on 16-Mar-24 11:32

Riley wrote:
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>

>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!


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Lol what kind of idiots do you think we are? 'Justin' friend, get him to leave and there is no issue. Go play in the mens

The Mole
wrote on 16-Mar-24 16:17

Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

 

See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

Which one are you?

Cod
wrote on 16-Mar-24 19:10

The Mole wrote:
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>

>Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

>If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

>See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

>Which one are you?


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I'm the type that doesn't whinge like a little bitch. This is happening and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. The quicker you accept that you're in the minority and on the wrong side of this argument the easier life will be for you. 
There are 2 types of people, those who want progress the sport and those that are stuck in the past and don't realise how bigoted they are. 

Which one are you champion?

Modern Warfare
wrote on 16-Mar-24 19:30

Cod - you're a soft cock mate. Back to your ponies and rainbows champ.

Modern Warfare
wrote on 16-Mar-24 19:39

Cod - you're a soft cock mate. Back to your ponies and rainbows champ.

Cod
wrote on 16-Mar-24 20:27

If I'm such a soft cock then lace up, identify as a female and meet me on the pitch. We'll see who walks away with intact ACL's and who doesn't. 

The Teacher
wrote on 16-Mar-24 20:31

Yes, I'm back. 

 

And I'm disgusted by the standard of spelling and grammar in this thread. I've been biting my tongue for a long time, but I couldn't do it anymore.

 

Please be better.

 

TT

The Mole
wrote on 17-Mar-24 07:38

Cod wrote:
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>

>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

>>If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

>> 

>>See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

>>Which one are you?

>
------------------------------------------

>I'm the type that doesn't whinge like a little bitch. This is happening and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. The quicker you accept that you're in the minority and on the wrong side of this argument the easier life will be for you. 
There are 2 types of people, those who want progress the sport and those that are stuck in the past and don't realise how bigoted they are. 

>Which one are you champion?


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If expressing concern over player safety and fairness to biological born females is the definition of a bigot then I ride with that on every occasion.

 

As for sitting in the minority with this, if you believe I sit on the minority side then you are more delusional than I first thought.

One only has to read the undertone in your comments to see you are a Board Member Bully, name calling and threats of nothing you can do about it.

 

Probably right on the nothing I can do about it, but member clubs have a course of action they can take, up to them if they take that leap.

Glad to see in the association is in good hands, NOT.

No doubt you'll see me again, so please come up and say hello and we can discuss it further.

 

Until then.

 

Best regards 

 

Your Bitch

Mistaken Identity?
wrote on 17-Mar-24 10:26

The Mole wrote:
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>

>Cod wrote:
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>

>>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>>Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

>>>If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

>>> 

>>>See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

>>>Which one are you?

>>
------------------------------------------

>> 

>>I'm the type that doesn't whinge like a little bitch. This is happening and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. The quicker you accept that you're in the minority and on the wrong side of this argument the easier life will be for you. 
There are 2 types of people, those who want progress the sport and those that are stuck in the past and don't realise how bigoted they are. 

>>Which one are you champion?

>
------------------------------------------

>
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If expressing concern over player safety and fairness to biological born females is the definition of a bigot then I ride with that on every occasion.

 

As for sitting in the minority with this, if you believe I sit on the minority side then you are more delusional than I first thought.

One only has to read the undertone in your comments to see you are a Board Member Bully, name calling and threats of nothing you can do about it.

 

Probably right on the nothing I can do about it, but member clubs have a course of action they can take, up to them if they take that leap.

Glad to see in the association is in good hands, NOT.

No doubt you'll see me again, so please come up and say hello and we can discuss it further.

 

Until then.

 

Best regards 

 

Your Bitch


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Are we sure they are a board member....? I thought they might be a player?

Cod
wrote on 17-Mar-24 15:08

The Mole wrote:
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>

>Cod wrote:
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>

>>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>>Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

>>>If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

>>> 

>>>See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

>>>Which one are you?

>>
------------------------------------------

>> 

>>I'm the type that doesn't whinge like a little bitch. This is happening and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. The quicker you accept that you're in the minority and on the wrong side of this argument the easier life will be for you. 
There are 2 types of people, those who want progress the sport and those that are stuck in the past and don't realise how bigoted they are. 

>>Which one are you champion?

>
------------------------------------------

>
------------------------------------------

If expressing concern over player safety and fairness to biological born females is the definition of a bigot then I ride with that on every occasion.

 

As for sitting in the minority with this, if you believe I sit on the minority side then you are more delusional than I first thought.

One only has to read the undertone in your comments to see you are a Board Member Bully, name calling and threats of nothing you can do about it.

 

Probably right on the nothing I can do about it, but member clubs have a course of action they can take, up to them if they take that leap.

Glad to see in the association is in good hands, NOT.

No doubt you'll see me again, so please come up and say hello and we can discuss it further.

 

Until then.

 

Best regards 

 

Your Bitch


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If you are so deeply concerned for player safety then why aren't you targeting females who are physically as big, if not bigger, than these transgender players? I've seen some absolute units running around soccer pitches going in studs up and injuring players purely because of their "size". But we don't hear a peep from you because they're women. It's only a problem to you when it's someone not born a female. 
So your issue was never player safety, it's the fact you don't like transgender people, hence, you're a bigot. 

The Mole
wrote on 17-Mar-24 16:17

Cod wrote:
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>

>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>Cod wrote:
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>

>>>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>>>Clearly Mr COD you didn't appreciate my post relating to a conversation I had last Sunday at Christie Park with a NWS Football Board member.

>>>>If anything written was incorrect you are more than welcomed to correct any part or all of my post.

>>>> 

>>>>See there are 2 types of people who love to sit on a Board, those who have no idea what they are doing and enjoy the thrill of being able to assert power and dominance over clubs and individuals  without the slightest pushback and then we have those who do want progress the code.

>>>>Which one are you?

>>>
------------------------------------------

>>> 

>>>I'm the type that doesn't whinge like a little bitch. This is happening and there is literally nothing you can do to stop it. The quicker you accept that you're in the minority and on the wrong side of this argument the easier life will be for you. 
There are 2 types of people, those who want progress the sport and those that are stuck in the past and don't realise how bigoted they are. 

>>>Which one are you champion?

>>
------------------------------------------

>>
------------------------------------------

If expressing concern over player safety and fairness to biological born females is the definition of a bigot then I ride with that on every occasion.

 

As for sitting in the minority with this, if you believe I sit on the minority side then you are more delusional than I first thought.

One only has to read the undertone in your comments to see you are a Board Member Bully, name calling and threats of nothing you can do about it.

 

Probably right on the nothing I can do about it, but member clubs have a course of action they can take, up to them if they take that leap.

Glad to see in the association is in good hands, NOT.

No doubt you'll see me again, so please come up and say hello and we can discuss it further.

 

Until then.

 

Best regards 

 

Your Bitch

>
------------------------------------------

>If you are so deeply concerned for player safety then why aren't you targeting females who are physically as big, if not bigger, than these transgender players? I've seen some absolute units running around soccer pitches going in studs up and injuring players purely because of their "size". But we don't hear a peep from you because they're women. It's only a problem to you when it's someone not born a female. 
So your issue was never player safety, it's the fact you don't like transgender people, hence, you're a bigot. 


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Mr COD,

 

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

 

One of the newest wonders of the modern world is if someone doesn't agree with a certain group then that person is labelled a bigot.  

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story Mr COD.

 

Will you be labelling everyone a bigot on Wednesday night at the meeting for Club Presidents who doesn't agree with you or are you saving that honour for me only.

 

PS: If you aren't who I think you are, then you're certainly a nasty piece of work trying to implicate someone else.

St Patrick
wrote on 17-Mar-24 18:15

Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

 

Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

 

The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 

 

 

PecKer
wrote on 17-Mar-24 20:06

St Patrick wrote:
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>

>Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

>Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

>The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 

 

 

dont worry - yur opinion will change once your own children gets poleaxed by a gender-0 kid.

your day will come
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Cod
wrote on 17-Mar-24 20:17

Summed up perfectly St Pat. The only nasty piece of work here Mr Mole is you. A user name that perfectly describes your personality. 
Spouting hateful rhetoric without anything based in fact. Scared of words and other things that he doesn't understand so instead of trying to educate yourself you simply choose to oppose it with outdated views. 

Ironic that you don't like being labelled something that you don't believe you are. Awkward. 

PecKer
wrote on 17-Mar-24 20:37

there will be a day of reckoning.. Aust society is g0ing astraY

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFNvwM1EOY

kenthurst keith
wrote on 17-Mar-24 21:13

Your all a bunch of fat woman hills better than ghaf kenthurst too win this year champeions of champeions here we come wheres west penno

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 01:59

St Patrick wrote:
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>

>Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

>Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

>The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 


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Your opinion doesn't count Jodie or is it Ben Alexander your Facebook profile of a deceased Penrith footballer.

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 02:11

Cod wrote:
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>

>Summed up perfectly St Pat. The only nasty piece of work here Mr Mole is you. A user name that perfectly describes your personality. 
Spouting hateful rhetoric without anything based in fact. Scared of words and other things that he doesn't understand so instead of trying to educate yourself you simply choose to oppose it with outdated views. 

>Ironic that you don't like being labelled something that you don't believe you are. Awkward. 

If you are calling me a bigot simply because I don't share your views so be it.

 

It appears we have 2 NWS Football Board members on here trying to convince others that their way is the right way.

 

 


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The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 02:16

St Patrick wrote:
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>

>Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

>Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

>The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 


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Interesting you use the word "NUP" which figures on your Ben Alexander Facebook page.

 

"NUP to the Cup"

 

Ring a bell Jodie!

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 02:21

St Patrick wrote:
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>

>Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

>Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

>The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 


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Interesting you use the word "NUP" which figures on your Ben Alexander Facebook page.

 

"NUP to the Cup"

 

Ring a bell Jodie!

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 02:25

St Patrick wrote:
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>

>Football NSW set the rules, based on consultation, the law and data. The bigoted opinions of an anonymous troll using five different names to have a chat with himself doesn't do anything except confirm him for a small man, scared of the real world.

>Where are these extra injuries caused by transgender players? They don't exist. They never have. Where are the stats showing their inclusion distorts the comp? Which comps have they cheated to win? Surely they have a full trophy cabinet including some club championships? Nup. 

>The womens comp here is pretty clean and fair. As Cod has pointed out, most of the bad tackles and resulting injuries come from aggresive women at teams/clubs that don't manage this kind of poor behaviour. Bats don't even make the list. Show me the stats if that's wrong, otherwise pull your head in. I'd rather have the Bats in our district than you. 


------------------------------------------

Interesting you use the word "NUP" which figures on your Ben Alexander Facebook page.

 

"NUP to the Cup"

 

Ring a bell Jodie!

Roger Entwhistle
wrote on 18-Mar-24 06:32

I think its all very interesting. 

This thread has blown up with originally about 99% of people outraged by whats going on. 

Fast forward to the last week or two and board members are attending Bats games and they are also posting on here and are the only ones against everyone else. 
I know the marlin has a vested interest and is weak as piss at the beat of times so that makes sense. 

The proof of this ridiculous situation was right in front of everyones eyes yesterday with a valiant Putney (last seasons Premiers btw) going down to Bats 1-5. 
Yep, sounds like a fair competition. 

Well done NWSF 

Ellie Carpentry
wrote on 18-Mar-24 08:07

What a joke of an association.

allowing Men to play against Women whoever aren't confused and are actually Women.

the Men's comp is mixed, yet they are allowed to play in a Women's only competition because they call themself a woman. How are you going to guarantee safety to our Women????

just wait until one of these blokes makes a dirty challenge or decides to push or shove one of the women, or worse yet young girls????? Because I know how 99% of Men would react if another Man touched his daughter/wife. Let's see you control that NWSF... Big problems incoming just you wait!

The uproar is coming. 
The movement #2024.

 

Why?
wrote on 18-Mar-24 08:35

Roger Entwhistle wrote:
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>

>I think its all very interesting. 

>This thread has blown up with originally about 99% of people outraged by whats going on. 

Fast forward to the last week or two and board members are attending Bats games and they are also posting on here and are the only ones against everyone else. 
I know the marlin has a vested interest and is weak as piss at the beat of times so that makes sense. 

>The proof of this ridiculous situation was right in front of everyones eyes yesterday with a valiant Putney (last seasons Premiers btw) going down to Bats 1-5. 
Yep, sounds like a fair competition. 

Well done NWSF 


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sorry, so confused... how do we know these abon accounts are board members...?

and why personal attacks? I just want a safe comp.

Ray Lamp
wrote on 18-Mar-24 09:46

If you know you know

Gary Player
wrote on 18-Mar-24 10:10

// It appears we have 2 NWS Football Board members on here trying to convince others that their way is the right way.

 

We need a grass root push back on this.

What is the point of the Safety Officers at the clubs..?

 

NWS has no balls

Cod
wrote on 18-Mar-24 11:03

The Mole wrote:
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>

>Cod wrote:
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>

>>Summed up perfectly St Pat. The only nasty piece of work here Mr Mole is you. A user name that perfectly describes your personality. 
Spouting hateful rhetoric without anything based in fact. Scared of words and other things that he doesn't understand so instead of trying to educate yourself you simply choose to oppose it with outdated views. 

>>Ironic that you don't like being labelled something that you don't believe you are. Awkward. 

>If you are calling me a bigot simply because I don't share your views so be it.

>It appears we have 2 NWS Football Board members on here trying to convince others that their way is the right way.

>
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You're not a bigot becuase you have opposing views on things. You are bigoted because you unfairly dislike a particular group of people for no good reason purely based on the fact they are different. You refuse to accept the members of this particular group despite there being no evidence behind your claims that it is unsafe. 

All you're saying is that it "might" happen or that it "could" be dangerous. yet there are no examples to back up your claims that players are in danger. There is no epidemic of injuries now that transgender people are playing in the association, definitely no more so than the usual amount caused year in year out caused by cis-gendered players.

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 18-Mar-24 12:18

I wouldn't like a 3X yr old guy sharing the same female locker room as my 12 yrs old. 

No way Jose whether he is cis or his-gendered. 

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 13:20

Cod wrote:
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>

>The Mole wrote:
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>

>>Cod wrote:
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>

>>>Summed up perfectly St Pat. The only nasty piece of work here Mr Mole is you. A user name that perfectly describes your personality. 
Spouting hateful rhetoric without anything based in fact. Scared of words and other things that he doesn't understand so instead of trying to educate yourself you simply choose to oppose it with outdated views. 

>>>Ironic that you don't like being labelled something that you don't believe you are. Awkward. 

>>If you are calling me a bigot simply because I don't share your views so be it.

>> 

>>It appears we have 2 NWS Football Board members on here trying to convince others that their way is the right way.

>> 

>> 

>>
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>
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>You're not a bigot becuase you have opposing views on things. You are bigoted because you unfairly dislike a particular group of people for no good reason purely based on the fact they are different. You refuse to accept the members of this particular group despite there being no evidence behind your claims that it is unsafe. 

>All you're saying is that it "might" happen or that it "could" be dangerous. yet there are no examples to back up your claims that players are in danger. There is no epidemic of injuries now that transgender people are playing in the association, definitely no more so than the usual amount caused year in year out caused by cis-gendered players.


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I don't recall saying anywhere on here that I disliked a particular group of people because they are different, now have I.

You are mixing fact with fiction Mr COD.

If I have please direct me to it.

You seem to be intent on saying that because there isn't injuries then it's not a concern.

One of the basic principles of risk assessment I would've thought is to act before it happens.

Forget about what I am saying, surely you've read a number of comments on here from others.

 

Some comments are insensitive but there are many that have a genuine concern.

Either yourself or St Patrick said I was in the minority of this one.

 

Surely nobody believes that.

I only know of one person, a parent of a Young Matildas who isn't staunchly against this.

 

At the end of the day, if it continues on then the best way to decide acceptance is player numbers in local association Women's senior football.

 

If any clubs chooses to forfeit then that would be a clear indication as to that team's view on the topic.

 

I also suspect veiled threats by the association could be a deterrent to taking that course of action.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 13:27
Cod
wrote on 18-Mar-24 15:39

Ok so because YOU only know of one person who isn't staunchly against it then that automatically means you aren't in the minority? I would say the absolute FACT that people are still turning up, supporting, playing games, registering for the next season and shaking their hands at the end of the match means a majority of people have no issue with trans-women participating in their games. So yes, you are in the minority.

In response to the link/video. Firstly anyone getting injured on a soccer pitch is not a nice thing to happen, just want to get that out there so I don't come across as completely harsh to that unfortunate girl.

But seriously, if you believe that video contained an egregious tackle that is leaps and bounds above normal tackles you see literally every week in womens football then YOU are the delerious one.

If that was ANYONE else other than a trans person then we wouldn't have heard a peep. But all of a sudden people loose their minds because they see someone different and think "THAT MUST BE THE REASON SHE WAS HURT" or "THATS WHY WE LOST THE GAME". It's clutchiung at strwas at this point.

Whybo
wrote on 18-Mar-24 16:13

Mr Cod can you please clear up why Riley hasn't needed a photo id to play in her last 3 cup games when everelse does? Ta

The Mole
wrote on 18-Mar-24 16:39

Mr COD,

 

I have one final question for you, if I wake up tomorrow morning and identify as a female, will my registration be accepted by NWS Football Ltd?

 

If you see me at the grounds come and say hi.

Whybo
wrote on 19-Mar-24 08:09

Whybo wrote:
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>Mr Cod can you please clear up why Riley hasn't needed a photo id to play in her last 3 cup games when everelse does? Ta


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Mr Cod??????????

Can you please answer my question?

You have gone strangely silent 

wtf is this
wrote on 19-Mar-24 09:35

The Mole wrote:
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>Found this Mr COD, like to hear your opinion on this.

>https://reduxx.info/exclusive-trans-identified-male-seen-injuring-female-player-during-womens-league-game/


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hahahahahahaha

wtf is this, how is this a story

 

the 'man' got taken out earlier in the clip and then went shoulder to shoulder.

watch any womens nwsfa game on a sunday and there are multiple challenges like this or worse.

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 19-Mar-24 09:42

the reason he has no Photo-ID is becos' - the Photo will scare off other kids

Whybo
wrote on 19-Mar-24 10:07

Whybo wrote:
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>Whybo wrote:
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>>Mr Cod can you please clear up why Riley hasn't needed a photo id to play in her last 3 cup games when everelse does? Ta

>
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>Mr Cod??????????

>Can you please answer my question?

>You have gone strangely silent 


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Cod????? Tuna?????

 

Obviously it's because she / this team is protected by NWSF. 
If ive got it horribly wrong please correct me. 

Obviously you are just as gutless as your mates and the 6 or so males who play WPL

Huh?
wrote on 19-Mar-24 12:14

Whybo wrote:
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>Whybo wrote:
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>>Whybo wrote:
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>>>Mr Cod can you please clear up why Riley hasn't needed a photo id to play in her last 3 cup games when everelse does? Ta

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>>Mr Cod??????????

>>Can you please answer my question?

>>You have gone strangely silent 

>
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>Cod????? Tuna?????

>Obviously it's because she / this team is protected by NWSF. 
If ive got it horribly wrong please correct me. 

>Obviously you are just as gutless as your mates and the 6 or so males who play WPL


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How do you know that Riley hasn't done that? From what I hear you need to have ID to be registered...?

Whybo
wrote on 19-Mar-24 12:47

Well if you have access to Dribl you will see that Riley has had no photo id for their 3 games

Huh?
wrote on 19-Mar-24 13:31

Whybo wrote:
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>Well if you have access to Dribl you will see that Riley has had no photo id for their 3 games


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Ahhhh I heard something about photos being removed after last years chaos around them. Assume it's a safety thing because seemed like a real pile on from all over the place!!! But also, there seem to be quite a few people without pics across the board on dribl and other comp apps so not thinking too much on that one. Photo ID I assumed you mean to be a registered person you need to prove you are who you say you are, when I changed my name after marriage I had to show that change in an ID for my rego. So now understand you mean no photo shown on the team list? I just think the policies seem to be a little broad for my liking, why have a policy for NPL but not for lower divisions. Get that this is an 'open comp' but there are still kids on these teams. Also less skill level?

Whybo
wrote on 19-Mar-24 13:39

Huh? wrote:
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>Whybo wrote:
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>>Well if you have access to Dribl you will see that Riley has had no photo id for their 3 games

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>Ahhhh I heard something about photos being removed after last years chaos around them. Assume it's a safety thing because seemed like a real pile on from all over the place!!! But also, there seem to be quite a few people without pics across the board on dribl and other comp apps so not thinking too much on that one. Photo ID I assumed you mean to be a registered person you need to prove you are who you say you are, when I changed my name after marriage I had to show that change in an ID for my rego. So now understand you mean no photo shown on the team list? I just think the policies seem to be a little broad for my liking, why have a policy for NPL but not for lower divisions. Get that this is an 'open comp' but there are still kids on these teams. Also less skill level?


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We are all told to check the ids of all opposing players before the game.

She doesn't have one. 
So how can she take to the field?

Codster
wrote on 19-Mar-24 16:36

Cod?

Cod?!

COD!!!!

 

Why won't you answer the question??

Dom Perignon
wrote on 20-Mar-24 09:20

Seems like his board - no backbone 

The Mole
wrote on 20-Mar-24 15:25

wtf is this wrote:
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>The Mole wrote:
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>>Found this Mr COD, like to hear your opinion on this.

>> 

>>https://reduxx.info/exclusive-trans-identified-male-seen-injuring-female-player-during-womens-league-game/

>
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>hahahahahahaha

>wtf is this, how is this a story

>the 'man' got taken out earlier in the clip and then went shoulder to shoulder.

>watch any womens nwsfa game on a sunday and there are multiple challenges like this or worse.


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The Inter Lions player fell because the St George tried to clear the ball and in doing so the ball actually made contact with the legs of the Inter Lions thus sending them off balance and falling.

 

Not even close to taking a player out.

On the other hand when the Inter Lions player took out the St George the ball might not even be in the field of play at the time and the force of the tackle which was completely unnecessary propelled the St George player dangerously close to the steel fencing surrounding the ground.

Meeting
wrote on 21-Mar-24 08:49

Somwhat happened last night? 

Let me guess tge clubs have to all bend over to keep one club happy

The Mole
wrote on 21-Mar-24 12:32

Meeting wrote:
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>Somwhat happened last night? 

>Let me guess tge clubs have to all bend over to keep one club happy


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Can't remember if I heard right last night but didn't another Club's President out one of their own players being transgender and playing in the women's competition.

 

Not the smartest thing to say because all it does is to have people looking and all players now come under consideration.

I wonder if this person really knew that their own Club President would say that.

THUG
wrote on 21-Mar-24 14:30

I agree that trans should not be playing with girls, but not sure why you're attacking certain clubs or associations. The rules are set by Football NSW and in turn by Football Australia and they're pretty clear.
https://footballnsw.com.au/2023/10/06/football-nsw-releases-gender-diversity-policy/
If you don't like them, complain to Football NSW rather than trying to bash the clubs or particular players who are playing within the current rules. 
If you're scared of FNSW and find your local club full of volunteers easier to harrass, maybe you should be wearing a skirt.

Job well done
wrote on 21-Mar-24 15:29

NWSF think its all done and dusted. 
Have a big meeting. Job done. 

It hasn't even begun yet

THUG
wrote on 21-Mar-24 15:51

I agree that trans should not be playing with girls, but not sure why you're attacking certain clubs or associations. The rules are set by Football NSW and in turn by Football Australia and they're pretty clear.
https://footballnsw.com.au/2023/10/06/football-nsw-releases-gender-diversity-policy/
If you don't like them, complain to Football NSW rather than trying to bash the clubs or particular players who are playing within the current rules. 
If you're scared of FNSW and find your local club full of volunteers easier to harrass, maybe you should be wearing a skirt.

Job Well Done
wrote on 21-Mar-24 15:59

THUG wrote:
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>I agree that trans should not be playing with girls, but not sure why you're attacking certain clubs or associations. The rules are set by Football NSW and in turn by Football Australia and they're pretty clear.
https://footballnsw.com.au/2023/10/06/football-nsw-releases-gender-diversity-policy/
If you don't like them, complain to Football NSW rather than trying to bash the clubs or particular players who are playing within the current rules. 
If you're scared of FNSW and find your local club full of volunteers easier to harrass, maybe you should be wearing a skirt.


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You said it yourself. They shouldn't be playing in this league. 
Some of them are MEN who choose to play against teenage girls. 
That is why these individuals and their club (for letting this bullshit happen) are being attacked

Wowza
wrote on 21-Mar-24 16:59

Wow NWSF is so wokeeeeeee.

i don't understand why every other team has to risk their safety and enjoyment to keep one team (the MInORItY) happy?

not to mention an unfair advantage? 

 

It is most definitely far from over, wait and see the backlash if teams actually do decide to play and not forfeit, and god forbid something happens!

And what will NWSF do, fine every team every week for forfeiting to protect their players???? Let's wait and see..

 

The point is, you have MEN playing against young girls and females who don't want to want play against men.

I'm yet to hear from a team besides Bats who is for it?

what is so hard to understand????

 

Why don't you create a mixed devision where people register to play against both males and females and leave the WOMENS competition alone?

 

THUG
wrote on 21-Mar-24 17:12

I agree that trans should not be playing with girls, but not sure why you're attacking certain clubs or associations. The rules are set by Football NSW and in turn by Football Australia and they're pretty clear.
https://footballnsw.com.au/2023/10/06/football-nsw-releases-gender-diversity-policy/
If you don't like them, complain to Football NSW rather than trying to bash the clubs or particular players who are playing within the current rules. 
If you're scared of FNSW and find your local club full of volunteers easier to harrass, maybe you should be wearing a skirt.

Thanks
wrote on 21-Mar-24 20:31

THUG wrote:
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>I agree that trans should not be playing with girls, but not sure why you're attacking certain clubs or associations. The rules are set by Football NSW and in turn by Football Australia and they're pretty clear.
https://footballnsw.com.au/2023/10/06/football-nsw-releases-gender-diversity-policy/
If you don't like them, complain to Football NSW rather than trying to bash the clubs or particular players who are playing within the current rules. 
If you're scared of FNSW and find your local club full of volunteers easier to harrass, maybe you should be wearing a skirt.


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thanks mate heard you the first time you dimwit 

When
wrote on 22-Mar-24 09:43

I need to go and watch this final. 
Can someone plz post the details 

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 22-Mar-24 11:36

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alabama-bans-dei-in-schools-and-says-bathrooms-must-be-designated-by-biological-sex/ar-BB1kfdPw

 

they only need to pass the Laws  governing usage of  locker rooms & toilets at the clubs

So
wrote on 25-Mar-24 06:07

I had nothing better to do so went to the game. 
Mac looked pretty young. They played ok and tried really hard. 
Lots of pushing by bats, some spectacular goals and from where i was near the bats dugout lots of cocky comments. 
Gonna be an awesome comp this year

Elom eht
wrote on 25-Mar-24 09:28

What do you mean? There weren't scores of young teenage girls littered all over the field seriously injured from playing against those big, mean man-ladies? How is that possible?! It completely ruins my argument if people aren't injured playing against bats! Rarrr I'm so angry 

Score
wrote on 25-Mar-24 10:03

What was the score?

So
wrote on 25-Mar-24 10:42

Score wrote:
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>What was the score?


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4-0 Bats

The Mole
wrote on 27-Mar-24 08:17

Great to see some free publicity for the Beryl Ackroyd Cup final overnight.

 

https://x.com/johnruddick2/status/1772500341118120265?s=42&t=6XqjhFhQOooDPmvrivK-vg

 

Look forward to seeing what comes next.

Email?
wrote on 27-Mar-24 22:14

Anyone else receieve an email from NSWF via Dribl about a reminder of the Social Media Policy?

 

Never has such an email been sent through to all members of NWSF before and I have a reliable source that the reason why this email was sent was due to the posts coming from this forum and how this forum is tarnishing the reputation of NWSF, it's stance on transgender players and transphobia/homophobia that they appear to be observing from this discussion.

 

It's very clear that NWSF has a hard-line stance on this and it's frankly disappointing. That email goes to show that there is no room for a counter argument conversation or tolerance for any other opinion that isn't their own.

And it's a bad response in relation to women's safety which they simply don't care about. 

More than that, it's sets a dangerous precedent that if you don't agree, you put up or shut up. Bumped into a ref a few weeks ago and he stated he won't referee Bats because of this. But hey, he can't let the powers to be know about that in case there's reprecussions. 

That's the world we live in now. Players, coaches, refs all told to get on the Progress Train or else face Tribunal. 

Park Football has lost it's mind.

 

Fuck NWSF
wrote on 28-Mar-24 06:48

Well I'm not registered to any club. I'm not a player, coach or club member. I was in the past but now I just watch the occasional PL game.

So if they don't like my views on this they can kiss my arse because they sure as hell can't sanction me or my club as I don't have one.

If they want to ruin the sporting integrity of the womens competition and put the safety of young girls at risk just so they can be pander to the woke elite they can fuck off.

By the way I thought I'd check out the Bats photo on twitter/X to see who the five blokes were and I've narrowed it down to about a dozen of them.

The Mole
wrote on 28-Mar-24 09:52

More free publicity for the NWS Football association this morning with Ben Fordham and Ray Hadley reporting the current situation on transgender players playing in the competitions.

 

I wonder how some people are going to feel at NWS Football when they are named and quoted on what they said at the Meeting held back on Wednesday 20th March.

 

Exciting times ahead.

Going big
wrote on 28-Mar-24 11:13

https://www.2gb.com/taking-the-piss-transgender-soccer-side-dominates-the-girls/

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 28-Mar-24 11:31

..i have gone a bit old & slow.

 

next yr I will be identifying as 'transitioning' -join a girlie team and score heaps of goals 

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 28-Mar-24 11:38

why is the comp labelled as 'Mixed' for men

Does Mixed meant - men, people identifying as men/women/trans/gay/etc non binary non hexadecimal. For Women - they even labelled it further as female. why?

 

All AGe Mixed  01 (for men?)

All Age Women's 01 Female 

Strap in
wrote on 28-Mar-24 12:22

Gonna explode. 
this is on radio, in newspapers. 

Bats, do the right thing and at lease not allow the transgenders to play wpl. You have a big enough club to fill a competitive wpl team of women. 

You are doing your club a massive disservice 

Action not talk
wrote on 28-Mar-24 12:34

525 comments on the Daily Mail (not a great credible paper but still)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13244359/Transgender-row-erupts-womens-football-tournament.html

 

The reality is there's no good kicking and screaming because we know NWSF won't do anything about this. It's up to players, referees and coaches to come together and end this farce.

It's as simple as that. Nothing will happen otherwise

The Mole
wrote on 28-Mar-24 12:52

Action not talk wrote:
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>525 comments on the Daily Mail (not a great credible paper but still)

>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13244359/Transgender-row-erupts-womens-football-tournament.html

>The reality is there's no good kicking and screaming because we know NWSF won't do anything about this. It's up to players, referees and coaches to come together and end this farce.

>It's as simple as that. Nothing will happen otherwise


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Completely agree, people outside of football have gone into bat for the clubs, it's now up to the clubs to walk through that door and take up the fight.

 

If they do they will have enormous backing from many many outside of football which is clearly obvious now by those highlighting this through the media.

Simples
wrote on 28-Mar-24 13:38

Its simple. 

They have a WPL team and an AA1 team. 

10/11 of the WPL team are biological women. 
Some of them are actually very good players. 
Take the best 4/5 WOMEN from the AA1 team and you have a strong AA1 team.

 

The 6 or so transgender players along with im presuming other transgender players throughout their club can play Mixed All-age. 

Then everyone would be happy. 
Or is it simply a case of Bats taking the piss and trying to get an unfair advantage?

Simples
wrote on 28-Mar-24 13:40

Simples wrote:
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>Its simple. 

>They have a WPL team and an AA1 team. 

>10/11 of the WPL team are biological women. 
Some of them are actually very good players. 
Take the best 4/5 WOMEN from the AA1 team and you have a strong AA1 team.

>The 6 or so transgender players along with im presuming other transgender players throughout their club can play Mixed All-age. 

>Then everyone would be happy. 
Or is it simply a case of Bats taking the piss and trying to get an unfair advantage?


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Edit: 

Take the 4/5 best WOMEN from the AA1 team and you have a strong WPL team

The Mole
wrote on 28-Mar-24 13:49

Putting aside the transgender player issue, the dialogue at the meeting of the 20th from the NWS Football Chair of the Board is unbecoming of someone in that position and he should resign as to the other Board members who no doubt endorsed his comments.

 

The Mole
wrote on 28-Mar-24 14:49

https://x.com/johnruddick2/status/1773170025710657816?s=42&t=bOhcR1k_ACbEwGM3XWZYJg

Toovey
wrote on 28-Mar-24 15:21

Big wright up in the telegraph today on this issue .

Crazy
wrote on 28-Mar-24 16:00

The Mole wrote:
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>https://x.com/johnruddick2/status/1773170025710657816?s=42&t=bOhcR1k_ACbEwGM3XWZYJg


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This is crazy stuff. With this being leaked, I wonder whether they will catch the leaker and see what disciplinary action occurs from this. 

And that's the first of three tweets. 

This will be on the news if this type of traction continues. Someone has to tango now. 

The Mole
wrote on 28-Mar-24 16:49

Crazy wrote:
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>The Mole wrote:
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>>https://x.com/johnruddick2/status/1773170025710657816?s=42&t=bOhcR1k_ACbEwGM3XWZYJg

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>This is crazy stuff. With this being leaked, I wonder whether they will catch the leaker and see what disciplinary action occurs from this. 

>And that's the first of three tweets. 

>This will be on the news if this type of traction continues. Someone has to tango now. 


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Could be an opportunity for NCIS NWS Football to commence.

Today I feel like a woman
wrote on 28-Mar-24 20:04

Reading the news articles, the Bats reckon these blokes should play in the women's league because they identify as women.

Can I suggest that to protect our girls, every Sunday morning our PL lads wake up with a strange feeling that they now identify as women, go out and play against the Bats - remember they are allowed to because it's how they identify at that point in time - and put double figures on them. Maybe even dish out a few tackles as well.

 Then on Monday they can wake up and identify as men again.

 

Seems to meet the criteria the Bats are playing by.....

Today I feel like a woman
wrote on 28-Mar-24 20:05

Reading the news articles, the Bats reckon these blokes should play in the women's league because they identify as women.

Can I suggest that to protect our girls, every Sunday morning our PL lads wake up with a strange feeling that they now identify as women, go out and play against the Bats - remember they are allowed to because it's how they identify at that point in time - and put double figures on them. Maybe even dish out a few tackles as well.

 Then on Monday they can wake up and identify as men again.

 

Seems to meet the criteria the Bats are playing by.....

Zero prejudice
wrote on 28-Mar-24 20:09

I haven't seen a single post here saying that the people in question here should not be allowed to play football.

 

The only concern people seem to have is the protection of the other girls - both from injury and from an unfair competition. 

Let's see FNSW and NWSF have a problem with that....

Zero prejudice
wrote on 28-Mar-24 20:09

I haven't seen a single post here saying that the people in question here should not be allowed to play football.

 

The only concern people seem to have is the protection of the other girls - both from injury and from an unfair competition. 

Let's see FNSW and NWSF have a problem with that....

Lol
wrote on 29-Mar-24 15:32

Piers Morgan in on the issue now.

global recognition.. wonder how the association feels now. Looking pretty stupid.

how embarrassing 

PecKer
wrote on 29-Mar-24 17:47

some of the other clubs shuld get a few   men to identify as 'trans'  & help with their match against the pink batts

Concerned Referee
wrote on 29-Mar-24 19:00

There is no official word from the referees association around this issue. My days as a PL referee are long gone but this came up on the news and my daughter who was thinking of playing Women’s PL thought of playing this year but has opted out. Thought there would be talk on this place and I wasn’t disappointed.

I cannot be the only referee who feels uncomfortable of this whole debate and I spoke to a referee committee member and he privately admitted that this whole thing is simply ludicrous

I have been told during a referees training session this week that referees had to be mindful of transphobic and homophobic comments made on and off the football field and to sanction it appropriately. There was no official word or position that the referees association has made.

When I then asked this committee member whether there would be repercussions of referees opting out from officiating matches where they don’t feel comfortable refereeing teams like Flying Bats that have majority transgender players, the response I received was ‘there is no official statement about this but I’m sure it will be spoken about at the next referees meeting’.

Referees at the forefront of their roles have to ensure that they protect player safety as an utmost imperative. They simply cannot do this when you have a team like the Flying Bats who have 50% and more of transgender players.

And one cannot simply play the diversity and inclusion card as an excuse to allow this to continue.

If anything it shows that this is not about Inclusion but Flying Bats bending any rule to ensure that they win at all costs.

They can play in the Mixed Comp in the lowest division and still compete without impacting all other women that they come across. But no, this is about sending a message to the rest of the competition that you have to accept us otherwise we will tarnish any reputation you have.

It’s a dangerous line that we are allowing here. What’s to say we don’t simply allow any given person to ‘be transitioning’ and for more women to be hurt in the process.

Clear communication needs to be sent through from the association because at the moment and with the leaked audio, people will forever post anonymously or hold secret conversations so they don’t lose their livelihoods.

I know people will label me an old 1980s skeleton that needs to get with the times but this seems like a running joke that hasn’t been ended yet.

Tedd
wrote on 29-Mar-24 21:02

I was at the game last Sunday and if anything it was pretty clear Grant was too lenient towards bats and wasn't pulling up many fouls from them. Maybe he was scared about getting in trouble?
One bats player repeated fouled/pushed a Mac player and finally he booked the bats player to ironic cheers from the crown. 
The Mac player was then substituted. Obviously it was deemed unsafe for her

The Mole
wrote on 29-Mar-24 21:47

I believe only a drop in the ocean of the audio has been referenced at this point in time.

 

Who's up next for their 15 minutes of fame?

 

 

PecKer
wrote on 30-Mar-24 02:22

its gone viral.... in many international websites and media now

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/women-team-five-transgender-players-134934772.html

The Mole
wrote on 30-Mar-24 08:13

The list is long as to who recorded and leaked the audio but don't for one minute think that it wasn't by someone on a committee or a Board member itself who isn't in agreement with the policy itself.

 

All is not what it seems to be.

The Mole
wrote on 30-Mar-24 08:15

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-youtuber-who-injured-female-athletes-among-five-males-on-australian-womens-soccer-team/

Angus D
wrote on 30-Mar-24 09:22

So this club and our Association have been dragged through the mud. 
Ray Hadley, Ben Fordham, Daily Telegraph, numerous Facebook articles and posts, social commentary even from USA. 

99.99% in agreement on the issue.

Will anything happen? Nah

 

1. The Association are in complete denial and are gutless

2 The club appear to actually enjoy winning this way. 

P.S. I particularly love the FB post on one of those alphabet sites with rainbow flags where it talks about the success of Bats and notes all the other teams should "train a bit harder"

Corey Vine
wrote on 30-Mar-24 09:43

I love how this thread is the most discussed on the mens forum page and a non discussion on the females. 

Is there any evidence that the girls playing have a problem or is it just the blokes winging who would otherwise not give 2 fucks about women's football.

Personally i don't think they should be playing in the comp but what do the girls who are playing actually think?

Partly
wrote on 30-Mar-24 10:10

Corey Vine wrote:
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>I love how this thread is the most discussed on the mens forum page and a non discussion on the females. 

>Is there any evidence that the girls playing have a problem or is it just the blokes winging who would otherwise not give 2 fucks about women's football.

>Personally i don't think they should be playing in the comp but what do the girls who are playing actually think?


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1st Sentence - This has always been the Mens Premier League forum. So up until last year this was 99% men contributing. And even with the Women PL section included from last year, my guesses are that the PL lads that watch their partners play contribute majority wise there.

 

I do think there are some women who are not happy with the situation but it's the fathers/partners of these girls that have taken the voice to the people. You don't have WPL reps holding secret meetings if the majority of their team were okay with the whole situation. 

Coach
wrote on 30-Mar-24 10:26

I coach a team in WPL. 
13 of my players don't want to play against Bats. 
3 or 4 more clubs have similar feelings. I know this for a fact

The Mole
wrote on 30-Mar-24 10:34

Coach wrote:
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I coach a team in WPL. 
13 of my players don't want to play against Bats. 
3 or 4 more clubs have similar feelings. I know this for a fact


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Another important point to remember is at the meeting of the 20th held at Christie Park, St Pats informed the meeting that as a direct result of transgender players playing for Flying Bats their players do not wish to play against them and have withdrawn both of their nominated teams from the competitions.

 

Pretty powerful indication that is that their female players don't feel safe.

Update?
wrote on 30-Mar-24 15:37

So the media were reporting that NWSF are going to again hold another meeting about this. Is there any truth to this? 
because Round 1 is next week and so if you have teams planning to pull out, now is the time for NWSF to address it

The Mole
wrote on 30-Mar-24 15:45

Update? wrote:
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>So the media were reporting that NWSF are going to again hold another meeting about this. Is there any truth to this? 
because Round 1 is next week and so if you have teams planning to pull out, now is the time for NWSF to address it


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No further meeting, just the one that NWS Football scheduled back on the 20th.

 

 

 

 

So
wrote on 30-Mar-24 16:05

So basically from that meeting on 20th March, there will be no further look into this? 

so Bats will play with their 5 players for the rest of the season and nothing more will be said? 

Wouldn't be surprised if someone tips the media of where Bats play in their first game of the season and have coverage/talking to spectators on how they feel about it. 

Can also see the refs association and someone has already posted about it, start to give more cards for transphobia behaviour that's non existent. Can see refs favour Bats because a wrong decision against them will be considered transphobic. Can see clubs forfeiting games and even last minute requests to be put a division down. 
Can see this whole thing turn very ugly.

NWSF will hope that this loses attention and everyone moves on.

 

Pap
wrote on 30-Mar-24 16:36

So wrote:
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>

>So basically from that meeting on 20th March, there will be no further look into this? 

>so Bats will play with their 5 players for the rest of the season and nothing more will be said? 

>Wouldn't be surprised if someone tips the media of where Bats play in their first game of the season and have coverage/talking to spectators on how they feel about it. 

>Can also see the refs association and someone has already posted about it, start to give more cards for transphobia behaviour that's non existent. Can see refs favour Bats because a wrong decision against them will be considered transphobic. Can see clubs forfeiting games and even last minute requests to be put a division down. 
Can see this whole thing turn very ugly.

>NWSF will hope that this loses attention and everyone moves on.


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You bet your arse the media will be at their games. Guaranteed.

They will hound them. At least until the club do the right thing 

The Mole
wrote on 30-Mar-24 17:06

The association is considering playing all Flying Bats Premier League games at Christie Park with entry to the ground restricted only to players, coaches, managers and immediate family.

With that will come hired security to ensure that is the case.

Last season Inter Lions who had a transgender player playing were responsible for having security guards on the entrance points of Majors Bay Reserve Concord but also had NSW Policers from Burwood Area Local Command present as well.

Welcome to the future of community sport.

Franky forfeit
wrote on 30-Mar-24 17:33

The Mole wrote:
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>

>The association is considering playing all Flying Bats Premier League games at Christie Park with entry to the ground restricted only to players, coaches, managers and immediate family.

>With that will come hired security to ensure that is the case.

>Last season Inter Lions who had a transgender player playing were responsible for having security guards on the entrance points of Majors Bay Reserve Concord but also had NSW Policers from Burwood Area Local Command present as well.

>Welcome to the future of community sport.


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Wont cost them much. 
they wont be playing to many games

World Gone Mad
wrote on 30-Mar-24 17:36

I'm glad I played the majority of my football in the 90s. 

These individuals would've been laughed at and told to play mens where they belong.

Manage this mania
wrote on 30-Mar-24 18:21

I am a WPL parent 

I will NOT place my 16yr old daughter in harms way.

Why is the intention to hold all Bats games at Christie? To pretect the Bats???

Where is my protection? Where is my daughters?? Where is my families??

This mockery of an Association has forgotten the rest of us. We all need to now protect ourselves. 

I am extremely upset with this situation that I thought my daughter was going to play against other girls NOT

grown men.

 

Mad i tell ya
wrote on 30-Mar-24 20:15

World Gone Mad wrote:
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>I'm glad I played the majority of my football in the 90s. 

>These individuals would've been laughed at and told to play mens where they belong.


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I'm glad i played my football in the 60's.

 

These woman wanting to play would be laughed at and told to play netball or to just focus on the ironing.

I also miss hating gays and beating my wife without judgement. 

 

 

 

Furious I tell ya!
wrote on 30-Mar-24 20:39

It's ludicrous! I miss the old  days! Remember when women couldn't vote and you could slap an ass without getting told off. 
Now all these gayboys want to play sport?! What's next?! What a shambles 

Take a stand
wrote on 31-Mar-24 01:07

All member clubs need to take a stand against this assocaition and it's board members... every single one of them needs to go. Most other assosciations are miles ahead of ours and this situation is now turning it into an even bigger circus. It's just embarrasing...

 

Mens and Womens PL teams as a start must petition the board and threaten to forfeit all games until this blight on our code is removed or just withdraw from the comp all together...

 

It's imminently clear that 99% of people feel this way but are too scared to speak against it.. Well the good news is that the tide is turning... The woke continue to shoot themselves in the foot and people are becoming less and less tolerant to their non-sensical idealogy.

 

We need STRONG men, we're going down a dark path. This is not progression, this is REGRESSION... If you're reading this and you are in a position to create influence I must remind you, there's more important things than park football...

 

 

 

 

Woke joke
wrote on 31-Mar-24 08:29

The Mole wrote:
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>

>The association is considering playing all Flying Bats Premier League games at Christie Park with entry to the ground restricted only to players, coaches, managers and immediate family.

>With that will come hired security to ensure that is the case.

>Last season Inter Lions who had a transgender player playing were responsible for having security guards on the entrance points of Majors Bay Reserve Concord but also had NSW Policers from Burwood Area Local Command present as well.

>Welcome to the future of community sport.


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If this is true it means the Association is just digging themselves deeper and deeper. 
So every club loses a home game and Bats get to play every game at CP. 

How is that fair. The Association continues to take it up the arse (perhaps literally) from this club. 
What an embarrassment they all are

Legal
wrote on 31-Mar-24 10:15

There's a couple of things that I've heard is going on

 

One of the club's knows a high profile lawyer and seeking legal advice about whether there can be legal grounds to gap into if there is solid evidence of increased of injuries directly resulting from teams playing against Bats.

Second bit of legal advice this club is seeking is the counter defence argument when (not if) their club chooses to forfeit their second round of matches against Bats (not just about player safety but essentially cheating).

Third bit of legal advice is around the protection of free speech and the threats NWSF lashed out to club's and members around the whole social media policy. 

A reputable referee of the association was brought into the discussion to then talk about the refs associations position which there has been no official word about a particular stance. To quote what was mentioned from the president of the refs association 'referees need to ensure they deal with transphobic comments in the same way as they would with racist and homophobic comments (I.e. send them off for abusive language). There was a discussion around the subjectivity of what constitutes as transphobic and what is abusive as it was noted the terrible inconsistencies we see on a normal week to week basis from referees around what any given ref thinks constitutes abusive. 

It was asked whether a player hypothetically said the phrase 'how are we supposed to play against a team like that'; whether such a statement could have a player sent off. The answer to this was highly probable. 

The discussion around who could be liable if a class action was taken. Would the referee be held liable due his/her responsibility to protect player safety? No definite answer was given. There have been examples in the early 2000s where a player wore jewellery and lost his finger in an incident and the referee was held liable. This would need to be explored in case NWSF redirect legal action responsibility to the referees association.

 

As of today, it is of the belief that NWSF will allow Bats to play with possibly 8 transgender players. No club's have yet to pull out altogether from the comp and Bats will be playing at Peel Park on Sunday 3pm against Ravens.

 

Question for NWSF
wrote on 31-Mar-24 11:24

Can someone from the association explain why, whatever number of years ago, a decision was taken to have a men's league and a women's league? On what grounds was this decision taken?

 

Can someone from the association then explain why the decision was taken for what is essentially the men's league to be called "mixed"? On what grounds was this decision taken?

 

Thirdly, can someone from the association explain why, having given their response to the first two questions, they now see no issue with a team that is potentially predominantly made up of men playing in the women's league.

 

Finally, I hope each and every one of you gets dragged through the mud and ripped to pieces by the media for putting your bullshit woke agenda ahead of any concerns about player safety and fairness and integrity of competition. Bunch of fucking virtue signalling weasels. 

Question for NWSF
wrote on 31-Mar-24 11:32

Can someone from the association explain why, whatever number of years ago, a decision was taken to have a men's league and a women's league? On what grounds was this decision taken?

 

Can someone from the association then explain why the decision was taken for what is essentially the men's league to be called "mixed"? On what grounds was this decision taken?

 

Thirdly, can someone from the association explain why, having given their response to the first two questions, they now see no issue with a team that is potentially predominantly made up of men playing in the women's league.

 

Finally, I hope each and every one of you gets dragged through the mud and ripped to pieces by the media for putting your bullshit woke agenda ahead of any concerns about player safety and fairness and integrity of competition. Bunch of fucking virtue signalling weasels. 

The Mole
wrote on 31-Mar-24 12:56

Let's not forget that Beecroft also has a transgender player playing there if we are to accept what the Beecroft President stated at the meeting of the 20th.

 

Great job outing one of your own, bet the player in question is thrilled to bits.

 

As for what was said in an earlier post about the media being at grounds, I have no doubt in the world they will be and will want to film but if the Premier League Flying Bats fixtures are played at Christie Park then access might be a bit more difficult to do so.

This week if Peel Park still remains as the venue, there is plenty of good viewing spots on the western side of the ground and no electric fencing either to keep the unwanted out.

 

Hunting Concern
wrote on 31-Mar-24 16:13

TBH i fear we are veering into dangerous territory trying to out players. The policy is my issue, that it allows them to play in the first place. There are alot of people who just dont agree with trans-ness in and out of sport. So let's not go looking for people and ID'ing them because that's where it does become a safety risk to them as well during and not during games. Let's get the executives to make change, not personal attack? The injury convo seems to fall a little flat, the broken leg mentioned in the audio didnt say the bats player was trans and me tioned a clumsy tackle? I think there are inherent advantages men have over women, but surely a decent policy manages these risks?

Questions
wrote on 31-Mar-24 16:59

I think there are a couple of things that need to be identified:

1. What are the requirements that NWSF have on allowing someone that is transgendered to play in the women's competition? If the rumours were true last season of Riley Dennis not being allowed in the NPL competition due to having too much testosterone levels in his body then are the same measures being used for all transgender players playing for Bats this season? Or is the margin 'that they simply identify as a woman'. If it's the latter then NWSF will need to put measures in place that smart-ass halfwits playing in Men's PL don't go 'identifying as women' to stir the pot for the sake of stirring a pot. However, if it is in relation to testestrone levels - then has Riley managed to keep his levels at an acceptable level? If so, there is a duty of care from medical professionals that need to be thought through to ensure he's not harming himself for the sake of allowing himself to play. And that's not just for Riley, that's for any transgender player.

Everyone is talking about the well-being and safety of all the other girls in other teams but we should also think through what impact these players are putting themselves through to allow themselves to play.

2. What are the clear directives from NWSF and FNSW around how many transgender players can play in a team? If we had a full team that were transgendered (from female to male), is that okay in the eyes of power's to be? Where's the line; if there is a line? 

3. Have the Bats taken advantage of the transgender rule to allow themselves to win the premiership by 'stacking the deck'? Is this really about embracing diversity/inclusion?

4. If referees have been asked to clamp down harder on abusive language particularly towards transgender players and more broadly The Bats then what does that look like? If we see discord between two teams arguing about this issue, does the referee abandon the game because the game is in disrepute? Does all crowd chanting get reporting more hard-line for Bat's games because of the sensitive nature of this whole dilemma? What is deemed to be transphobic? How will referee's protect player safety when Bats play?

5. Will there be a Pride Round as rumoured half way through the season? If players and teams don't participate (particularly the direct players/team that plays against Bats), will NWSF sanction heavily? Will referee's be forced to sanction on the pitch (similar to 2022 WC when England were told that they would be sanctioned wearing the armbands). 

6. Will clubs, representative's or vested interests in the game continue to leak to the media around the surrounding updates about this dilemma throughout the season? What's the end goal for everyone? Is it simply to get the board to admit they were wrong and to change or are people wanting to use this as an opportunity to wipe the whole board and start over again?

7. Will clubs that are genuinely concerned about women's safety, force their younger players to play in a different division to ensure their safety doesn't get impacted more than the average Jo playing?

8. Can NWSF force only players, coaches/officials and only close family to come to Bats games if they do indeed decide to move all Bats games to Christie Park? How can that legitimately be policed? 

9. When will an official communication around this whole dilemma be sent through to all members? Every person and their dog now knows about what is happening and Im sure majority are wondering whether anything is happening from it. Just say something. Even if it is 'we stand by our original decision to allow this to continue and things will proceed as normal for Round 1'. Even that is better than nothing.

10. How big can this become? If nothing happens and media do pester this and this forum continues to engage in this in the way it has, could this be the leading international headline around what western society does with allowing transgender players to play women's sport?

 

 

PecKer
wrote on 31-Mar-24 22:45

its on sky news now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOcJcuxADVU

Biology Rules
wrote on 01-Apr-24 12:04

Go woke, go broke...eventually this will backfire on them and have egg on their faces!

If more biological female players and many of the families and supporters of the various clubs make noise of this...good luck NSWF, you can't just shut everyone up if it is a truthful and logical concern being brought to important attention regarding fairness and player safely, then prepare yourselves for mass lawsuits due to negligence and injury compensation.

Matter of time before more of this continues to get attention across the media and it will come back to bite them!

Wahhhhhhhhh
wrote on 01-Apr-24 13:36

So many people suddenly passionate about safety and the integrity of the wpl comp.

Can anyone else share some other insights on how to improve injury rates or is banning 5 trans athletes from 1 team by far and away the best way to achieve this?

 

Pffft
wrote on 01-Apr-24 16:34

Shut up idiot.

You're probably one of those blokes!

how about go play in the men's comp and leave the women to it

Facts for waaahh
wrote on 01-Apr-24 18:26

Firstly, they (you) aren't "trans athletes". They (you) are blokes that want to play against women/girls.

 

Secondly, we are always all about integrity of competition. That's why everyone agrees to having ID cards, so "ringers" can't play. It's why there was an issue a couple of years ago over concerns that NER had a unregistered player who had signed from an NPL club.

 

Third, are you criticising the fact that people are concerned about women/girls getting injured? Interesting take.... The fact is in a contact sport things happen (still have pins and plates in my leg) but there is an acceptable level of risk that players take into consideration and then a level beyond this which is not acceptable. That seems a reasonable concern.

 

 I'm not sure if banning grown men from playing against teenage girls is "far and away the best way" to improve injury rates. But your attitude is like saying that because speed is the biggest factor in road traffic accidents we shouldn't worry about any other way to reduce the number of accidents and therefore everyone can drink drive, use their phone and doesn't even need a licence.

 

Why not just play against other men?

Wah wah
wrote on 01-Apr-24 19:50

Wahhhhhhhhh wrote:
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>

>So many people suddenly passionate about safety and the integrity of the wpl comp.

>Can anyone else share some other insights on how to improve injury rates or is banning 5 trans athletes from 1 team by far and away the best way to achieve this?


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it's ok couple of the boys will be playing youse anyway Goodluck keen for the game

sam
wrote on 02-Apr-24 01:36

Gone Viral alrighttttt

This NWFA board in untenable - they will all need to resign

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxFrSg5Dlmo

Ravens
wrote on 02-Apr-24 10:00

Ok so today, you would assume, is the day. 

Are ravens one of the 4 clubs who are talking about forfeiting against bats? 
Today will see if they are a club of conviction or a club of sheep

The Mole
wrote on 03-Apr-24 08:37

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/dcKFFfby6MvK7Y8j/?

 

2GB Ben Fordham interviewing Kirralie Smith on the NWS Football Team Trans issue.

The Mole
wrote on 03-Apr-24 16:22

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-women-drop-out-of-australian-football-division-after-five-trans-identified-males-dominate-womens-league-leave-female-players-injured/

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 04-Apr-24 08:32

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 04-Apr-24 08:34

we have to TRAIN HARDERERRRR

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 04-Apr-24 08:37

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During the March 20 meeting, which was attended by CEO of Football NSW John Tsatsimas and convened by CEO of NWSF, Matthew Geracitano, attendees were told that a decision to boycott participation by forfeiting matches against The Flying Bats would result in “disciplinary action” being issued.

“If there was a concerted effort by teams to forfeit games against a particular opposition that would be viewed as an act of discrimination,” said Chris SalmonChair of the Board of Directors for NWSF. While incidents of discrimination are weighed on a case-by-case basis, possible penalties include suspensions, from as little as two months to two years.

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NAB
wrote on 04-Apr-24 09:18

Harry Potter wrote:
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>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13265579/JK-Rowling-controversy-Aussie-womens-soccer-team-five-trans-players-Flying-Bats.html

>JK Rowling has re-tweeted the story on her twitter yesterday.


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Another Multi-Million Dollar story for her to write. 

M.oliver
wrote on 04-Apr-24 09:49

So, we are now on the world spotlight.

NWSF is famous. Expect rego numbers to boom? 

NAB
wrote on 04-Apr-24 09:50

Harry Potter wrote:
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>

>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13265579/JK-Rowling-controversy-Aussie-womens-soccer-team-five-trans-players-Flying-Bats.html

>JK Rowling has re-tweeted the story on her twitter yesterday.


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Another Multi-Million Dollar story for her to write. 

Yesterday
wrote on 08-Apr-24 06:09

Yesterday at epping, bats beat a valiant ravens 2-0.

It appeared bats played within themselves and bats werent as effective without their 6"4 striker who was nowhere to be seen. 
Goalkeeper Mattie went upfront and scored both goals. 
The police and camera crew made it a fantastic spectacle for our association 

M.oliver
wrote on 08-Apr-24 08:48

Yesterday wrote:
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>>Yesterday at epping, bats beat a valiant ravens 2-0.

>It appeared bats played within themselves and bats werent as effective without their 6"4 striker who was nowhere to be seen. 
Goalkeeper Mattie went upfront and scored both goals. 
The police and camera crew made it a fantastic spectacle for our association ------------------------------------------

so the goalie scored 2 penalties?

Godfrey
wrote on 08-Apr-24 08:52

M.oliver wrote:
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>

>Yesterday wrote:
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>>Yesterday at epping, bats beat a valiant ravens 2-0.

>>It appeared bats played within themselves and bats werent as effective without their 6"4 striker who was nowhere to be seen. 
Goalkeeper Mattie went upfront and scored both goals. 
The police and camera crew made it a fantastic spectacle for our association ------------------------------------------

so the goalie scored 2 penalties?


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Played as striker 2nd half

Clown Show
wrote on 08-Apr-24 09:08

So there was police and camera crew at the game, for what?! To protect them Bats, pathetic!

Wow this association is a fkn circus - don't have the legitimacy to say it as it is and to do something that should be supportive for female; correction, "biological female" football players, no other association in NSW has this problem and this club is only an invitational out of area into NWSF...they should do what is right for the majority of the association and send them back to Canterbury or whever they originally were

The Mole
wrote on 08-Apr-24 09:25

Heard the missing celebrity striker was getting hitched yesterday hence why they were absent.

Make or Break
wrote on 08-Apr-24 09:26

This is going to be make or break for NWSF.

 

If nothing changes then the participation levels of NWSF Womens Premier League will be dire for not just next season but the flow on seasons to come.

 

All the work that clubs and the association have been trying to put in to strengthen women's participation in sport and to make the WPL competitive and held as a good standard across the football spectrum, will go all to waste.

 

But FNSW need to have a good hard look at themselves. I get that it's against the law to discriminate and not allow trans players to play and it's in the FNSW constitution to allow this to go ahead. But if they can't even take the time to consider the impacts that a team like the Bats or any other team that takes advantage of a situation like this (and cover it up by saying 'we are all about inlcusion') then this will be a constant issue for the next decade until society wakes up and realises we have been going backwards and not forwards.

 

 

Casemiro
wrote on 08-Apr-24 11:15

Hey lads 

 

just wondering if everyone in the association would like to protest against this disgusting behaviour ? 

premier and super league men's on a Sunday to a game 


stand and protect our women 

watts
wrote on 08-Apr-24 13:13

Casemiro wrote:
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>Hey lads 

>just wondering if everyone in the association would like to protest against this disgusting behaviour ? Premier and super league men's on a Sunday to a game 

>stand and protect our women 

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Too Politically Incorrect - "protecting Women Sports". . .Won't get official traction.

It's 2024. Times have changed.

Only Boycott Works. They will double down.

Won't work
wrote on 08-Apr-24 13:17

Unless you gather all the club's spectators particularly the roudy ones like Normo, Epping Eastwood, West Penno etc. who just jeer at every mistake the players make then nothing's gonna happen during game day.

Watts is right - boycotting is the only way and if the rumours are true (and I know they are), clubs bringing in legal reps is a good start to ensure the right course of action is taken

Sack the board
wrote on 08-Apr-24 18:07

Just sack the whole board they're absolutetely useless on all accounts. Don't have the intelligence or integrity to run a football association. 

Me mate dave
wrote on 08-Apr-24 18:43

There won't be a WPL comp next season at least not in its current form. 
I have it on very good authority a number a clubs simply wont play in a WPL comp against Bats. 
Two or 3 clubs have already contacted clubs from other associations. 
NWSF will have noone to blame but themselves. 
A shitshow is an understatement 

PecKer
wrote on 08-Apr-24 18:44

go just do away with opponents in the  WPL  & let Bats be crowned Kings

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWYJXj1VVc

The Mole
wrote on 10-Apr-24 09:07

Last weekend Gladesville Ravens had the opportunity to take a stand, they didn't.

 

Despite all the carry on in the lead up to the game about how unfair it is, not being a level playing field and safety concerns, the club went to water.

Frightened and scared of the governing bodies they crumbled when it counted.

 

Clearly the club needs stronger representation who won't fall to pieces when the going gets touch.

 

As a club, once you show hesitation and fear, you will always get pushed around and when that happens there is no coming back.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 14-Apr-24 11:24

This week it is the turn of Normanhurst to step up and make a stand and forfeit against Flying Bats in the Women's Premier League competition.

 

If not they can join Gladesville Ravens in the Castle of Cowards.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 15-Apr-24 06:39

Yesterday I ventured down and watched the Flying Bats play Normanhurst.

The score was listed as 6-0 to the Flying Bats but I thought it was more than that, anyhow the score doesn't really matter as the Flying Bats were in low gear stringing passes together as if it was just a normal night at training.

I do want to single out the Normanhurst keeper, technically she was very good and had very safe hands.

A keeper of lesser ability would've concede far more goals, definitely she was Normanhurst's player of the match in my eyes.

Well done young lady!

I couldn't help notice that a couple of Normanhurst players were a bit tackle shy in the match, possibly due to the imposing size of the Flying Bats transgender players but that was only an observation of mine as I had no others around me to confirm or deny that.

The Flying Bats keeper named as Mattie Noble showed zero respect for the Normanhurst team who were completely outclassed believing it was appropriate to sit down on the ground in the penalty box whilst the ball was down the other end of the field.

The Normanhurst team deserved respect, they fronted up to play your team and you did that. 

Extremely poor form.

Normanhurst now through the club management decision to play and not take a stand by forfeiting join the Castle of Cowards with Gladesville Ravens.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 15-Apr-24 06:45

Yesterday I ventured down and watched the Flying Bats play Normanhurst.

The score was listed as 6-0 to the Flying Bats but I thought it was more than that, anyhow the score doesn't really matter as the Flying Bats were in low gear stringing passes together as if it was just a normal night at training.

I do want to single out the Normanhurst keeper, technically she was very good and had very safe hands.

A keeper of lesser ability would've concede far more goals, definitely she was Normanhurst's player of the match in my eyes.

Well done young lady!

I couldn't help notice that a couple of Normanhurst players were a bit tackle shy in the match, possibly due to the imposing size of the Flying Bats transgender players but that was only an observation of mine as I had no others around me to confirm or deny that.

The Flying Bats keeper named as Mattie Noble showed zero respect for the Normanhurst team who were completely outclassed believing it was appropriate to sit down on the ground in the penalty box whilst the ball was down the other end of the field.

The Normanhurst team deserved respect, they fronted up to play your team and you did that. 

Extremely poor form.

Normanhurst now through the club management decision to play and not take a stand by forfeiting join the Castle of Cowards with Gladesville Ravens.

 

 

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 15-Apr-24 09:08

// The Flying Bats keeper named as Mattie Noble showed zero respect for the Normanhurst team who were completely outclassed believing it was appropriate to sit down on the ground

 

I would sit down too if there is nothing to do. Standiing UP takes an effort.

 

(Boycotting -..even more)

Confused
wrote on 15-Apr-24 09:33

Fuck you're reaching for things to complain about now Mole.

Here's my best The Mole impression:

"Crap they're not injuring anyone like I said they would 100% do.

I need to find something else to make it seem like they're this horrible team of bullies.

I got it!

They didn't show respect to the other team!

They are the only team in the history of the game that have done this!

Kick them out! Boycott them!

If they were cis-gendered this wouldn't have happened!

Only trans people do this!

Wahhhhh"

The Mole
wrote on 15-Apr-24 11:56

Confused wrote:
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>

>Fuck you're reaching for things to complain about now Mole.

>Here's my best The Mole impression:

>"Crap they're not injuring anyone like I said they would 100% do.

>I need to find something else to make it seem like they're this horrible team of bullies.

>I got it!

>They didn't show respect to the other team!

>They are the only team in the history of the game that have done this!

>Kick them out! Boycott them!

>If they were cis-gendered this wouldn't have happened!

>Only trans people do this!

>Wahhhhh"


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It was just something I pointed out, I did also point out that the Normanhurst keeper had an outstanding game and kept the score well below what it could've been.

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 15-Apr-24 12:02

Confused wrote:
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>Fuck you're reaching for things to complain about now Mole.

>Here's my best The Mole impression:

>"Crap they're not injuring anyone like I said they would 100% do.

>I need to find something else to make it seem like they're this horrible team of bullies.

>I got it!

>They didn't show respect to the other team!

>They are the only team in the history of the game that have done this!

>Kick them out! Boycott them!

>If they were cis-gendered this wouldn't have happened!

>Only trans people do this!

>Wahhhhh"


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The elephant in the room still is perfectly clear, there are a substantial number of biological born males playing in a competition that should only be for biological born females.

 

watts
wrote on 15-Apr-24 13:18

>>>The elephant in the room still is perfectly clear, there are a substantial number of biological born males playing in a competition that should only be for biological born females.<<<<

 

didn't that Team with the 5 males withdrew? or the team withdrew?

what happened?

 

 

The Mole
wrote on 15-Apr-24 13:56

watts wrote:
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>>>>The elephant in the room still is perfectly clear, there are a substantial number of biological born males playing in a competition that should only be for biological born females.<<<<

>didn't that Team with the 5 males withdrew? or the team withdrew?

>what happened?


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No, business as usual in Bat Land.

Team is still there and so are the transgender players.

 

The rules allow for this which is where the problem is, Flying Bats and the players have done nothing wrong, they comply with how the rules are written.

 

 

No point
wrote on 15-Apr-24 18:12

There's no point even following it anymore. The association are all for it and oppositions are not even forfeiting.

Flying bats will run away with it and no one is going to stop them. Ludicrous but true.

 

shouldnt be happening but too many sheeps to do anything

Puff
wrote on 15-Apr-24 18:25

No point wrote:
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>There's no point even following it anymore. The association are all for it and oppositions are not even forfeiting.

>Flying bats will run away with it and no one is going to stop them. Ludicrous but true.

>shouldnt be happening but too many sheeps to do anything


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Hold our beer

PecKer
wrote on 15-Apr-24 23:06

we might just form a cheer squad with pom pom girls boys and support the Bats on match days to a premiership.

Ya mums ya dad
wrote on 17-Apr-24 14:32

Riley wrote:
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>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!

Where were you r1???

you had a cop on site and 4 patrol cars going around the area in-case of any drama.

wasted police resources 
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Ya mums ya dad
wrote on 17-Apr-24 14:34

Riley wrote:
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>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!

Where were you r1???

you had a cop on site and 4 patrol cars going around the area in-case of any drama.

wasted police resources 
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Ya mums ya dad
wrote on 17-Apr-24 16:30

Riley wrote:
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>

>Some real disgusting comments in here. None of you know what it's like to transition, nor be a woman born in a man's body! 
If you're all so tough, why don't you come down and speak to me in person this weekend!

Where were you r1???

you had a cop on site and 4 patrol cars going around the area in-case of any drama.

wasted police resources 
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The Mole
wrote on 18-Apr-24 08:59

Interesting to note that on the Dribl app Macquarie Dragons Premier League have forfeited against Flying Bats this weekend.

Kudos to the club.

Whilst the reason why isn't known it doesn't take much to work out why.

 

I will bet London to a brick that another club has or will be taking a stand as well in the same competition.

 

Let's see if the threats made by the association at the meeting on the 20th March are carried through with.

NWS Football, your bluff is being called now.

 

You talk the talk, but are you prepared to walk the walk NWS Football?

 

 

No way
wrote on 18-Apr-24 10:04

The Mole wrote:
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>Interesting to note that on the Dribl app Macquarie Dragons Premier League have forfeited against Flying Bats this weekend.

>Kudos to the club.

>Whilst the reason why isn't known it doesn't take much to work out why.

>I will bet London to a brick that another club has or will be taking a stand as well in the same competition.

>Let's see if the threats made by the association at the meeting on the 20th March are carried through with.

>NWS Football, your bluff is being called now.

>You talk the talk, but are you prepared to walk the walk NWS Football?


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They wouldn't be that silly. 
The backlash from the public and around our association would get to levels not seen before

Rex Hunt
wrote on 21-Apr-24 23:21

Mac Dragons forfeited to the Flying Bats today....

Sydney Morning Herald
wrote on 22-Apr-24 01:26

Rex Hunt wrote:
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>Mac Dragons forfeited to the Flying Bats today....


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Thanks scoop

The Mole
wrote on 22-Apr-24 07:46

Rex Hunt wrote:
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>Mac Dragons forfeited to the Flying Bats today....


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Well done to the decision made by Macquarie Dragons.

 

As certain as it is with the sun rising in the east another club will be forfeiting as well.

 

Watch this space.

Samuel Kerr
wrote on 22-Apr-24 09:03

if you're gonna lose 8-0 , why not lose 3-0

Let the men play (amongst)  themselves

The Mole
wrote on 22-Apr-24 10:49

Samuel Kerr wrote:
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>if you're gonna lose 8-0 , why not lose 3-0

>Let the men play (amongst)  themselves


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Completely agree with you on that one.

 

 

 

 

watts
wrote on 22-Apr-24 10:59

The Mole
wrote on 23-Apr-24 21:36

Tonight's Sapphire Cup fixture saw Flying Bats absolutely thump Beecroft 12-0.

 

Got what you deserved Beecroft.

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